Talk:Cedar Rapids, Iowa

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Doesnt somebody want to put in the weather of this place in. I am not from this place, so am not a good person to write about this, and the page will be very much useful if somebody can fill in with the weather details too. For somebody who is travelling to that place.Balaji Varma 16:32, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Five Smells?

I've removed the city of five smells nickname. It was previously added back as a "Revert Vandalism" (which, by the way, make a lot of other extraneous changes including adding old typos back) and before that was removed as a an unsourced derogatory nickname. I have heard the nickname used from time-to-time, although I don't personally feel it's worth putting in the article. If you do add it back, PLEASE, find a reference. This would be a silly thing to result in an edit war. HDow (talk) 22:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

There are several consensus remarks throughout the entire article, one being under Neighborhoods: '... are commonly known as the "ghetto" of Cedar Rapids'. Leave the nickname in the article. If you ever visit CR, you should be prepared to know why it smells the way it does. Hawkervictorone (talk) 18:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I went to Coe College in the early 70s. At the time, Wilson and Company operated a meat packing plant south of town. Believe me, on a hot summer day with humid air coming in from the south, the nickname "Cedar Rancid" was on alot of tongues. It was the mark of the greenhorn, the freshman, to blame the Quaker Oats plant for the stink. That smelled like an oatmeal cookie to me and I liked it. "The city of five smells" must have gained currency after I left town. I never heard it but with the nickname, "city of five seasons" , just coming in (and sounding rather pretentious), it's not suprising that the "five smells" moniker also showed up. Wilson's closed the plant in 1990 so that smell is gone. The young people don't know what us old folks remember. PHEW (holds nose)!--Phyllis1753 (talk) 16:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ron Livingston? / Marion a suburb?

Isn't Ron Livingston from Marion? Granted, that Cedar Rapids metro area and he was born in a hospital in Cedar Rapids and he got his start in professional theater at Theater Cedar Rapids, but he lived in Marion and went to Marion high school. How picky is normal for this sort of thing? Ace of Sevens 01:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I would include it. Marion is esentially a suburb of Cedar Rapids, and people from the suberbs of Chicago are certainly associated directly with the main city. And the tie to TCR makes it even more legitimate. Gaijin42 22:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I think people from Marion would dispute that they're a suburb of Cedar Rapids. In fact, they fight pretty strongly to stay seperate... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.191.203.196 (talk • contribs)
People from marion my have a desire to remain seperate, but that has nothing to do with reality. Marion and Hiawatha are both very clearly suburbs. From wikipedia's suburb definition : In the United States and United Kingdom ( TALK) , the word "suburb" usually refers to a separate municipality, borough or unincorporated area outside a central town or city. That clearly matches Marion, as a seperate municipality outside a central town. You can drive straight to Marion on 151, without ever leaving a town, and everywhere I know, that is a suburb. Gaijin42 20:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
First page Google search: http://www.ots.treas.gov/crasql/docs/CRAE_08541_20030505_62.RTF -"...the other in Marion, Iowa,

a suburb northeast of Cedar Rapids...". On the other hand, I don't see a compelling reason to include this particular individual on Cedar Rapids' page instead of at Marion, Iowa. Our Ron Livingston article doesn't mention his ties to Marion, what's your source on that? -- nae'blis (talk) 06:10, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

My source is his IMDB bio. Ace of Sevens 02:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Marion is not a suburb of Cedar Rapids. It was founded before CR and is the original county seat of Linn County. The two cities have simply expanded towards each other over the years. BrainyIowan 23:51, 11 November 2006
I do not know if your history is right or not. I will assume it is. The order of founding, or history of the towns is irrelevant. As the definition above clearly states "separate municipality" so yes, they are separate cities. outside a central city. Pretty much describes Marion. According to your definition, all of the well known Chicago burbs aren't suburbs either, because they were just cities that grew together. I understand Marion's feelings of pride, and they are justified. But pride and feelings have nothing to do with an encyclopedia. Gaijin42 01:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, the article says "People from CR and surrounding area" and marion clearly qualifies under that umbrella. Gaijin42 01:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

In the wiki suburb article it also states that suburb usually refers to a "bedroom community." Marion is definitely not a bedroom community. I'm not sure why I'm arguing with you though. Ron was born in a Cedar Rapids hospital so that does make it his birthplace, which is what really counts. :) BrainyIowan 23:51, 12 November 2006

Marion falls within the suburb definition given by merriam webster [1]. Marion is 22% the population of cedar rapids according to the 2000 census. Living in CR I can say that Realtors refer to Marion as a suburb as well. Williameis 17:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

If you look back at the history of Marion, it at one time was bigger than Cedar Rapids. Also, if you live in Eastern Iowa, and watch KCRG, you would know that [I'm pretty sure] they qualify Marion as a town , also its City of Marion.... And Marion also did have the county seat for a while. I believe Marion is a town, not a suburb of Cedar Rapids. Plus, our roads get cleaned WAY faster than Cedar Rapids during the winter when we have a snow storm... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.175.204.59 (talk) 18:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I should fan this fire more since its been a yearly discussion but in my visits to Cedar Rapids and Marion and my significant other who grew up in Marion, there's is certainly ambiguity but there is no doubt that Marion's modern success is a result of the commercial, agriculture, and service industries developed in Cedar Rapids' skyscraper boom. The income of Marionites are tied to Cedar Rapids now. Though historically the towns have diverged, in the past half century, Cedar Rapids has been chosen and has been developed into the "major city" of the area. The development in Marion also reflects a very suburban nature now (malls) and much of the housing now is post-Depression and post-war with a thin collection of the original 20th century buildings. There is little self-sufficient industry in Marion as well. And the Interstate is sited to emphasize Cedar Rapids with exits that lead directly to corporate headquarters. Lastly, many points listed above are correct, Marion and Hiawatha have been "absorbed" by the Cedar Rapids MSA. As a Twin Citian looking in, we recognize these urban/suburban relationships immediately. And to clarify a fact, a suburb is often an incorporated city in itself with independent government. The term burrough, neighborhood, or district more accurately reflects a sub-section of a city outside the downtown but still inside its borders (ie Czech Village). .:DavuMaya:. 03:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Per Capita GNP

The article lists Cedar Rapids as having a GNP well below what quoted as the Iowa average and roughly half the United States average. This doesn't seem right. Ace of Sevens 01:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Notable Natives

I noticed it lists Michael Boddicker, musician. Is this correct? I know Mike Boddicker the former MLB pitcher was born in Cedar Rapids, but I can't seem to find any info that Boddicker the musician was or was not from C.R. --Ironsij0287 20:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Confusion! There is a Michael Boddicker who is a musician , a 1975 Coe College graduate and is from C.R. There was a family business, "Boddicker Music", not far from the campus. There is Mike Boddicker, the baseball player. I know that Michael is a Coe grad because I'm one, too (1977). I have an official Alumni Directory and there he is (and listed incorrectly as Michael J., no less; whereas IMDb lists him correctly as Michael L). They are two different people, however. Phyllis1753 17:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I have found that "Mike" is from Norway, Iowa, not Cedar Rapids. Norway is about 20 miles southwest of C. R. and in Benton County. [2] Phyllis1753 18:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] "one of only two mainland cities to have their governmental offices on an island"

What about Montreal? Has someone really checked all cities in the world? --Chl (talk) 19:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC)