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[edit] Inpacto

Please help me to understand what I am doing wrong. Fergie needs to be in the top box because she is featured. Genevieve-Tamerlaine (talk) 06:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] marsupial lion

Look at the articles for penguins, pigs, monkeys, frogs, birds, or any other plural animal. What do they all have in common? They are all redirects to a singular titled article. Take a look at some lesser known animals, and the redirect is to the family, like marsupial lion. There happens to be one species in that family with the same name as the family, and by WP:MaM convention, it is capitalized: Marsupial Lion. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revert warring

Dear Cazique,

Having examined the history of Marsupial Lion, you have engaged with User:UtherSRG in a revert war. I have reported him to 3RR, and not you solely on the basis you stopped these actions after you warned. But please be aware, if you violate this wikipedia guideline again, you will be reported. I have suggested contributors to Talk:Thylacoleonidae vote on the issue of redirect direction to establish a consensus. I'd like it if you took part in this, this situation needs to be resolved.

The best, Mark t young (talk) 15:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a short time in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below.

Revert warring on Marsupial lion, per a report at WP:AN3. EdJohnston (talk) 15:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

{{unblock|I'm sorry I got in that edit war but I felt like as if my hand was forced. I knew there was going to be an edit war due to his contributions and it being a recurring patern so I tried my best to prevent it. I discussed it on the talk page and his talk page and I also went and told two admins Esanchez7587‎ and Asterion but did not hear from them. I asked him repeatedly to reply to my comments and the points I raised but he did not and as it was his revision really he has no interest in doing that. If the article he is disagreeing on is his revision and his way, then there is no need for him to actually try and improve the article as it is already how he wants it. I left the page the way it was and instead pleaded we discuss some more on the talk page to LonelyMarble and was waiting for her reply until now when I was just blocked. I won't revert again and try to make them both understand what I am saying as I have not as of yet been successful. Cazique (talk) 16:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)}}

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

I'm happy to unblock, but please do not go anywhere near that article, or start edit warring for the next two days or so.

Request handled by: Alex Muller 16:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Back to real life

Oh well, I am going to sleep then. Hopefully I am unblocked if not, then I would like to thankyou Mark for becoming involved in this and I wish I had gone to you rather than Asterion and Esanchez7587‎. As I am blocked and can't leave you a message on your talkpage I'm leabing my comments here and hopefully you will see them. Also great job on cleaning up Thylacoleonidae you have really improved it a great deal. It needed that clean up. Okay well off to sleep, I'm saying this just incase I get unblocked the very second I turn off the computer. Because if further discussions then go on at the talkpage and users see I am not replying, they may think it's for other reasons. Cazique (talk) 16:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

But I want to discuss the issues and reach a concensous, how am I meant to do this if I am not allowed near the article? And I do not wish to edit war again, not even in two days. I only did it because I felt I had to, I would rather we discuss things, listen to and address all points and issues raised in our reasons, and then agree on a concensous. Cazique (talk) 16:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, feel free to discuss on the talk page if you want... discussion is never a bad thing, I should've made that clear. Just no more mindless reverting please :) Alex Muller 16:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
It wasn't mindless though. I did it because he wouldn't reply and like I said in my request, what incentive is there if things are your way? Cazique (talk) 16:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
That doesn't matter - just don't edit war, please. I know what you mean, and I'm struggling to think of a way to explain it now. WP:DR is a useful page. Alex Muller 16:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I did most the things in WP:DR, honestly I tried before it came to the edit warring. Oh well at least now other admins are finally aware of us and will keep an eye on Uther as I suspect he will continue from his general attitude. Cazique (talk) 17:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Unblocked

Hi Cazique, Thank you for your kind words above and on my talk page. I hope that both UtherSRG and yourself can open a dialogue and move forward with the marsupial lion articles. Its a shame that before now nothing much got done. Well hopefully that'll now change :) I have to say, that I agree with your position regarding the redirect link. I'd really appreciate it if you could help forge a consensus on the talk page. Best, Mark t young (talk) 17:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Marsupial Lion

A recent edit war concerning a page you recently edited (but may not have been involved with the war) is being resolved via a poll. If you have an opinion, please voice it now by voting at Talk:Thylacoleonidae. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 20:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Cazique, the warning I placed on your talk page was not meant as a personal attack, rather just a warning for violating the three-revert rule so you would not get blocked, and so that this edit war could stop until we got a resolution. Note that UtherSRG was also warned for violating the rule so don't take it personal. You are welcome to give your opinion in the poll that was set up. Cheers. LonelyMarble (talk) 21:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
The warning I gave on your talk page was specifically about violating Wikipedia:Three-revert rule and the reason I gave it at that specific time was because you had just violated it despite me warning you not to earlier on the discussion page. UtherSRG had already got the same warning on his talk page a couple days earlier. I simply wanted to end the edit war and get a decision made, and that is happening now so let's just move past this. LonelyMarble (talk) 22:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Waka

You must mean as in Wakaleo. I have wondered about this myself. It's certainly not Latin. Perhaps an indigenous Australian word / place name? Sorry I can't help you any further. Iblardi (talk) 16:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The word seems to mean "small" or "little". See [1]. I know nothing about non-Indo-European languages, and the info *might* be wrong. I would just add this piece of information though, and see if someone comes along to challenge it. Iblardi (talk) 17:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your question to me on Marsupial Lion

"In regards to "nor are many going to be aware that Marsupial Lion and Marsupial lion are necessarily two different things", but they are not two different things. As of yet everyone has failed to defend the keeping of marsupial lion as a redirect to "Thylacoleonidae". They always defend it by saying "marsupial lions" which I have already pointed out is already redirected to it, or as Uther said "marsupial lion family". There are not other species deserving the common name "Marsupial Lion", T.carnifex is the largest species of the so called "marsupial lions" and is the most deserving of the name. In fact if it were not for this species I doubt the common name "marsupial lions" would have even come about to describe the family. By the way, I am curious to find out exactly how you came about this page? Cazique (talk) 05:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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I answered most of your comments on the Thylacoleonidae talk page. As for the last, I don't think it is relevant, but if it will stop some of the unproductive activity that has been occurring I will tell you. I ended up on Uther's talk page when checking into a possible issue regarding the Sable Antelope page. Uther and I do seem to have a few common interests. While there I noticed that there was some controversy about marsupial lions. As a member of MaM project, I went to that page to see if there was relevant input I could add. Based on what was on Uther's talk page, I actually initially thought that Uther was being overly pedantic about capitalization, an area where Uther and I havce disagreed in the past (see some archived mammal naming discussions). But when I saw the full discussion I realized that this particular situation is more nuanced, and that - particularly because of the MaM policy of capitalizing species' common names - I agreed with Uther on this one. I hope that sets your mind at ease, and you are willing to discuss any remaining issues you have with the Thylacoleonidae page productively. You seem to have considerable knowledge and could be a potential resource to Wikipedia, but we can't always get our way in every disagreement.Rlendog (talk) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR Warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Marsupial Lion. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I gave you a warning, and you got blocked quickly. That's what happens. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

I have blocked you for 72 hours for edit warring across numerous articles (Thylacoleonidae and Marsupial Lion). Please understand that repeated reverts will achieve nothing but warnings and blocks. If you wish to contest this blocking, please use the {{unblock}} template. Thank you. (N.B. to unblock request admins - Do not unblock the user unless he/she has given a strong/solid reason.) ScarianCall me Pat! 17:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | rangeblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked.

Request reason: "See all I said would happen, has happened. How can this injustice occur? What ever happened to fairness. Go and read all the history that has happened over this, and view the WP:ANI. This is not right. Cazique (talk) 17:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)"


Decline reason: "Fairness has nothing to do with this. Edit warring does. You've been reverting and reverting on these articles, trying to hold them hostage against those who prefer a different version than you. You have 72 hours to read up on normal Wikipedia process and policies like WP:EW and WP:3RR, I suggest you make good use of it, or you'll be blocked for longer and longer periods if you persist in this type of behavior when you return. Mangojuicetalk 17:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)"

Please make any further unblock requests by using the {{unblock}} template. However, abuse of the template may result in your talk page being protected.