Talk:Cattle age determination

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This text seems to be taken from http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/The_Household_Cyclopedia_of_General_Information/agecattle_if.html, which says it is an excerpt from The Household Cyclopedia of General Information, published 1881.

• This is probably a copyright violation. Compare with Original Article and read the terms and copyright. They say: "5. Use on Other Web Sites. The Contents are licensed only for the personal, household, educational use by a single individual. Reproducing Content on another site or redistributing Content is forbidden. Taking Content from this site and editing it and posting it on another site is also forbidden. Framing of this site is forbidden.". Thanks to User:Chadloder for locating the web source (this was done on 24th January 2003, do we really have a copyvio publication published here for a year???) ^.Optim 10:01, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)

[edit] From VfD

[edit] January 4

• Age of cattle features a quote from a book that "may not be accurate", and nothing else. -- Francs2000 08:34, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  • This is probably a copyright violation. Compare with Original Article and read the terms and copyright. They say: "5. Use on Other Web Sites. The Contents are licensed only for the personal, household, educational use by a single individual. Reproducing Content on another site or redistributing Content is forbidden. Taking Content from this site and editing it and posting it on another site is also forbidden. Framing of this site is forbidden.". Thanks to User:Chadloder for locating the web source (this was done on 24th January 2003, do we really have a copyvio publication published here for a year???) ^.Optim 10:02, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  • The copyright claim is invalid because the Household Cyclopedia, being published in 1884 is in the public domain. Toph99 12:31, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  • The article should be merged into an article on cattle or cows or bovines. However, I would be a bit wary of "technical" info that is this old. Still, it could be moved with the 1884 tag until someone with knowledge about aging cows comes along to correct - Marshman 18:08, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Move to wikisource if you like it, since the information is too outdated to be reliable. Maximus Rex 20:06, 8 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Telling the age of cattle was well established by 1884. Wile E. Heresiarch 16:39, 9 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  • Expand. Telling the age of ruminants by looking in the mouth is seen in old movies and TV shows, and the adage "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth" relates to this directly, though I agree the species is off a bit. The historical information is interesting. I have asked a university veterinary dental instructor if she would be interested in contributing to the article. Kd4ttc 18:27, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Copyedit and expand [note history and innovation, if any] JDR

[edit] Out of date

Concerning the line "A early version of this article was an extract from The Household Cyclopedia of General Information, 1881. The methods described may therefore be out of date." The methods in this article are still used in the industry to determine the age of an animal. Cheers Beaver 23:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)