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Contents 1 Use of "Political Correctness" 2 Plot 3 Trivia 4 Redirect 5 Appearance in Ads 6 Removed section 7 Vandalism 8 Popular Culture 9 Criticism

[edit] Use of "Political Correctness"

Alteration in lyrics from 'Chinks' to 'Siamese' was described as 'politically correct', a term that has negative connotations and is used primarily by critics of multiculturalism, etc. I deleted the term and substituted a more neutral one.

Changed it back, it IS "politically correct" which is a neutral term, wheras calling it "modern sensibility" is POV.

Changed it to "racially insensitive." Per Wikipedias own definition of the term political correctness, it is generally used in a pejorative sense and therefore not neutral. I also renamed the title of this discussion, since it's about the use of the term "political correctness." Rblum 22:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

The plot is too long and far too detailed, it tells the entire musical, wheras I think it should just give an outline of sorts, short and simple instead of the entire show!

Is there anymore to what happens in the musical, or is it really as devoid of story as the plot summary suggests?Artiste-extraordinaire 14:11, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

The musical's name, Cats, can be translated into Finnish, my language (=Kissat). However, since the Finnish word "kissat" may have a discriminating tone (against ladies) it never obtained a local translation. It's been known as "Cats" ever since its premiere.

Producers almost never used local translations. The exceptions are Poland and Hungary. (And maybe Russia.) Poland was Koty and Hungary advertised the show as both Macskak and Cats. According the the press releases by RUG the producers of the Mexican show did an opinion poll to see if potential viewers would respond better to "Gatos". Cats won. --Kunzite 13:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

The idea for a musical about cats was introduced in the 1933 Busby Berkley movie, Footlight Parade, staring James Cagney, on the Warner Brothers label. Cagney played a Broadway producer coping with competition from the newly invented talking movies by simultaneously producing dozens of short, live, prologue musical shows to open for the movies. Cats was just one of his many gimicks. He gives a real cat to the director so he can teach the dancers to move like a cat. There is one scene of a dress rehearsal with dancers in cat costumes. [Onerock] 02:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect

Shouldn't Cats the word be redirected to the article Cat? When people think about Cats they think about the species felis silvestris catus not the musical. The musical can be put in the disambiguation. For example search up Dogs in the search box, when someone types cats in the search box they more likely wanted to know about the Cat not some musical. Pseudoanonymous 22:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Appearance in Ads

I recently wrote a paragraph about a PSA featuring some of the Jellicles, which was deleted because apparently "they have been featured in many ads". Does this mean a section about the ads they have appeared in may be in order? I don't know what anyone else thinks, but if the Cats have appeared in a lot of ads, shouldn't we at least mention it? Lycanthrope777 20:24, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed section

"CATS has been touring throughout the UK, with stops in Portugal and Brazil. The current UK Tour 2006/07 is as follows:...Some cast changes are expected by the end of February, even though most of the ensemble will still be the same." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kunzite (talk • contribs) 21:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Vandalism

I was thinking that it might be best if we do something to stop all this random vandalism that's been happening. Maybe we should make it that you have to be a member of Wikipedia to edit it. The Quidam

Yep, it would be best! --Lilidor 17:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I think we really should. This is starting to be a real problem and, it's getting out of hand as well! --The Quidam 4:10pm, 22 January 2007

I agree. How does that get down? Rblum 22:29, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

You can request it here. On a similar note, what the devil is the Playbill bit of the infobox supposed to be? Someone changed it to Rumpelstiltskin (although much typo'd), but I have no idea where the change occurred, and so I'm at a loss to fix it (I've simply removed it). If anyone is knowledgeable about that site's workings, please add in the show's proper id. Blast ^{[improve me]} 12.06.07 0454 (UTC)

[edit] Popular Culture

This show has had significant resonance, including emulation, spoofs, references to, etc. in popular culture. To cite one tiny example, the David Letterman show featured a recurring "advertisement" for Cats starring Chris Elliot that was a spoof, and David continued to mis-quote the opening lines of the song "Midnight". How about adding a section called something like "Cats in Popular Culture." I am not the one to start this. --NYCJosh 23:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

It's a good idea in theory but we have to think about this. Do you know how many pop culture refrences Cats has? The Quidam 02:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

No, but I suppose that was a rhetorical question. We could start with some of the more well-known ones. We don't have to be exhaustive of the topic. The section would provide a few examples and thereby show cultural resonance of the show. --NYCJosh 23:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

Ok so in popular culture I know that cats is universally panned, but could we get some sort of critical reaction section going?