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In the first version of this article, I added that the aborigines in Australia are/were an often discriminated group. This was later removed, stating it was a non-NPOV part of the article.

For me this, this discrimination is virtually a fact. It would in my eyes be the same to say the South African government was (not is) discriminating blacks is non-NPOV.

Can the editor - or anybody else - help me see why it is not NPOV? Jeronimo 01:58 Jul 31, 2002 (PDT)

Hmmm. That discrimination occurred in the past is pretty much indisputable. That Aborigines, as a group, now and in the past are disadvantaged (in terms of financial resources, health, education levels etc) compared to the wider Australian population is also true. That Aborigines are still systematically discriminated against (as distinct from suffering from the effects of past discrimination, disposession, and a severe clash of values) is hotly disputed and is a discussion that belongs elsewhere on the Wikipedia. For the purposes of this article describing the Aboriginal people as disadvantaged should suffice. --Robert Merkel

Yes, you are right. The current wording more accurately says what I wanted to say. Thanks! Jeronimo

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[edit] faith

adherents.com [1] lists her as bahai, but i could not find any other reference to this. This made me suspicious, as she would probably be the most famous living bahai. Can any-one confirm this?

How is this relevant! perhaps concentrate on her achievements. Why must religion be brought into everything?!?194.46.230.53

Anything relating to her biography, including her religion, is relevant. --Angr (t·c) 09:01, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Read her book (a journry just begun) its in there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.31.55 (talk) 08:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tribe

Does anyone know which tribe she belongs to? --Angr (t·c) 09:01, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Aboriginals still struggle with racism

Cathy Freeman worked at the Post Office only a few years ago and based on her own website she says people refused to be serviced by a "Black".

I am from the USA and here Aboriginals would not be considered black, but Polynesians like any Maori,Tongan,or even some Filipinos.

If they are treated as poorly as is said then I'd hate to see how a "real" black like a Nigerian or Sudanese would be treated in Australia.

IMO, Aborigines look more Caucasian than anything else with their straight hair and bone structure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.65.157 (talk) This has to be the dummist statement I've ever heard! So-called Aborigines are Black like Sudanese and Nigerians, not white. What the hell are you talking about? There are Africans in Africa with both curly and straight hair. It seems like people like yourself think that Black people exist only south of the Sahara and in the United States.

David —Preceding unsigned comment added by Black36865 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Coz I'm Free

I remember that she had a tattoo during the Sydney Olympic Games on her shoulder(?) saying Coz I'm Free. Was that temporary? It would be nice to have a picture of it.Iago4096 13:41, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

No, it was a permanent tattoo and is from the lyrics of a favourite song of hers. The tattoo is visible in some pictures of her, notably a portrait she had done after her retirement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.233.178 (talk) 21:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Phrasing

I want to know how people feel about the phrasing of the current sentence "she is regarded as a role model for her people" or this one "she is regarded as a role model by her people". What does everyone think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.92.103.196 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 5 April 2007.

[edit] Chinese?

Heard somewhere that she has a chinese great, great grandfather or something. If true, does that merit inclusion into the article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.104.66.1 (talk) 12:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] "runned fast"

We've all said some silly/incorrect things. Is it really necessary to have this as the only quote from Cathy? I've lived in Australia for the past 10 years and have heard many interviews with Cathy. She is quite intelligent and, although not always extremely eloquent when "on the spot", I'm sure we could find some more powerful words from her. The quote actually sounds like it's meant to put her down. Any comments?--Todhall 15:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it sounds like some kind of POV pushing meant to diminish her. I have removed it.--Jersey Devil 04:18, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colour Coding

perhaps there should be a key for the colours used. Obviously the yellow gold is for 1st place, silver is for second etc, but what is the green entry for? at the 1998 Australian Championships? (Namzie11 (talk) 08:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC))


[edit] Aboriginal

Is there any particular reason why there is absolutely no mention of Australian Aboriginals on this page? I was under the impression that Freeman, at least, considered it part of her identity. The talk page seems to indicate that mention was made in past revisions of this article. Why has it been removed? -- 01:23, 1 May 2008 (JST))

[edit] Sandy Bodecker?

umm she didnt marry sandy Bodecker, it was Alexander Bodecker May 19th 2008, 8:30pm (NZL)

Same person!

Thatlot!! (talk) 21:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)