Talk:Catalonia national football team
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The template at the bottom needs tidying up. Nobody, but nobody, believes that the Isle of Wight, Anglesey, etc... are nations. This is not to say Brittany, Catalonia, Basque Country etc. are not nations, but not these tiny little islands.
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[edit] Catalonia is a national team
Satesclop, please can you take your anti-Basque and anti-Catalan agenda elsewhere. A national football team does not have to represent an independent state. There are several cases in Europe alone where autonomous regions have national teams. Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Faroe Islands are all recognised by UEFA and FIFA and use the term national team in their articles. Politcal status has nothing to do with it. Even so both the Basque Country and Catalonia have more autonomy then the above. Djln--Djln 16:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Match stats
I know I saw a match between Catalonia and Andorra in 2003 or 04. Why isn't it included in this list? Moravice 09:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- This is only a selected list of games against well known national teams and/or frequent opponents. For a more complete list see this source. [1]. There is no mention of them playing Andorra in 2003 or 2004 on this list or at the other sources linked to main article. Djln --Djln 21:02, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deleted parragraph
I've deleted the "there are many Spanish teams in Catalonia", since that has nothing to do with the Catalonian team. --85.48.105.52 05:28, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kit
I'm not entirely sure how to edit the kit diagram, but here's a photo of the home strip:
http://www.futcat.org/images_noticias/0000000249/38.jpg
--GoHawks4 18:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Catalonia FA.gif
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[edit] Flags
Codorado (talk · contribs) is putting some flags that (s)he doesen't accepts in other articles. I think it is crucial to write in this article (since it deals with Catalan national football team) to specify which people are Catalan but, if in FC Barcelona the information about the autonomous community is not accepted, I don't see why should we detail here if Iniesta comes from Castille la Mancha or to put the coat of arms (¿?¿?¿?) of Plovdiv.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 01:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Codorado answered me the following:
- In a regional football team, is important to know who of those guys are of that region, and the official nacionaties of the players, in that case for the neutral point of view, you must use the regions of the other to aditional information, to know the regional places of the others. In the other case, is an international football team of the spanish league, only the official nacionalities are important, the unofficial nacionalities or the politics-points are not important, if somebody wabt to know the born-place of the players, they have their owns articles.--Codorado (talk) 01:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- --Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 01:40, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- In a national football team it is interesting to know which people comes from that region. All other information is as important or superfluous in one article as in the other.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 01:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Anyway, the flags were wrong, the autonomous flag of catalonia was on people like Albert Celades, Joan Josep Nogués, Ricardo Saprissa, Sagibarbá... And they are not catalonian in anyway.--Codorado (talk) 01:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Then remove that flags. Not add more flags. Or, if you add more flags I'll have the right to do the same in FC Barcelona.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 01:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Is that a threat? Sorry, the neutral point of wiew is more important, and like i sais, is not the same this (autonomous football team) than the FC Barcelona (a spanish football club). Anyway, this is the perfect NPOW of this article for me, show me your perfect NPOW version, maybe we are not so far.--Codorado (talk) 01:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, finding a NPOV is a threat of both users with different POV to include both POV. Now there is no coherence between both articles. As I already told you, for coherence we have to either delete here "superfluous information" or add in FC Barcelona "interesting information", deppending as how you see this information.
- I don't see consistent your argument about autonomous football team and spanish football team. FC Barcelona is a Catalan team (it plays Catalan Cup), it is Spanish team (plays Spanish liga), it is an European team (plays Champions leage). Considering it just as Spanish team is quite biased. Anyway, if we deal with Catalan national team, I just see reasonable to specify which are Catalan and which not. I do not even see interesting to specify if they are Spanish, Bulgarian or German. Paraphrasing your words, if somebody wants to know the nationality of the players, they have their own articles. So, my POV would be just put Catalan flags. Your is putting Spanish one. So, let's put Spanish and Catalan and forget coats of arms...--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 02:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Is that a threat? Sorry, the neutral point of wiew is more important, and like i sais, is not the same this (autonomous football team) than the FC Barcelona (a spanish football club). Anyway, this is the perfect NPOW of this article for me, show me your perfect NPOW version, maybe we are not so far.--Codorado (talk) 01:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Then remove that flags. Not add more flags. Or, if you add more flags I'll have the right to do the same in FC Barcelona.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 01:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Anyway, the flags were wrong, the autonomous flag of catalonia was on people like Albert Celades, Joan Josep Nogués, Ricardo Saprissa, Sagibarbá... And they are not catalonian in anyway.--Codorado (talk) 01:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- In a national football team it is interesting to know which people comes from that region. All other information is as important or superfluous in one article as in the other.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 01:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)