User talk:CarolGray

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[edit] Orpington railway station

Thanks for your note, Carol. I might have quite good knowledge of stations because of a large reference library of my own, but, although I live quite near Ordington (and know the station), there is always truly local knowledge which will enhance any article. I would suggest that your sentence is tacked on the end of the first paragraph since that is all about the station, and will help to make the article less "bitty" however. As for the Cannon Street trains, then by all means add them if they run all day. Trains from my own local station only run there at peak times. That could be added to the list of places trains go to - ie Cannon Street (peak times only) perhaps? You may well get hooked on Wiki if you're not careful!!! Peter Shearan 06:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I've come across your name on the Vehicle-to-grid page where you correctly corrected "complementary" and "intermittent" to their correct spellings. However, it's habit of mine to see what smart people like you are into, and I went to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CarolGray to see what else you're interested in, to see if I can find some topics I'd be interested in too, to add to my watchlist. I've noticed that in a few cases you corrected the phrase "under the circumstances" to "in the circumstances." I'd like to tell you that in US English I've constantly heard the phrase "under the circumstances," and it sounds very right to my ears. Perhaps my midwestern English as a second language English isn't as proper as your native Southeastern London one, but I thought I'd mention it, so perhaps next time you see the "under the circumstances" phrase, you may or may not want to just let it go, instead of getting a sudden urge to do the right thing, and correct it. Peace. :)


The original meaning of "circumstance" is "around where you are standing", hence, strictly speaking, you can't be under a circumstance. However, I've discovered that American articles use "under the circumstances" so frequently that it must be the norm over there. I'll go away and do something else. CarolGray 17:14, 8 November 2005 (UTC) No, no, don't go away, please, Wikipedia is fun, and I too like seeing things spelled correctly! Sillybilly 13:08, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Waterloo

Hello Carol. Thanks for your message. I'd recommend directing or redirecting to Lambeth (the place rather than the borough). Waterloo as a district is a bit of a fiction but nonetheless it is in common parlance as a place so deserves a mention but probably not a full article. Mrsteviec 12:04, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

I, Gaius Cornelius hereby award you this Minor Barnstar for all your brilliant minor edits!
I, Gaius Cornelius hereby award you this Minor Barnstar for all your brilliant minor edits!

Keep up the good work! Gaius Cornelius 14:40, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Yep! Good job on the different whiskies! --Pmkpmk 11:54, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Excessive detail.

Hi Carol. I am happy to see that there is someone going through my work checking spellings, grammar and tidying up my sentences, as being an engineer these are not my strong points. However I would prefer it if you didn't remove facts I have written because you belive it is excessive. In my experience an encyclopedia should contain as much information as possible, and is bulit around excessive detail. When a person looks up Orpington I believe that that person has done so to find out as much information about it's history and current status as possible, therefore there is no such thing as being excessive when it comes to information. Arsenal mjh 23/01/05 10:30 am (UTC).

[edit] Whisky Linkspam

Hi Carol, maybe you want to involve yourself here User_talk:Jmputz. Thanks! --Pmkpmk 13:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orpington

Hi Carol. I'm glad to see you are also editing Orpington. It is now one of the more extensive suburban London articles and really is crying out for some fantastic images. I don't suppose you have access to any suitable (copyright free) images? Mrsteviec 11:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Thats great. It seemed wrong that we have more images of the chicken than the town. Mrsteviec 16:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Babe Ruth

I'm posting this message on you Talk Page either because you've contributed to the article Babe Ruth, or because you've edited other baseball or sports related articles. I've recently completed a revision of this article at Babe Ruth/rewrite. If you have the time, I'd appreciated it if you'd compare the articles and leave any feedback you might have on the rewrite discussion page. I'd like to reach a consensus before makeing major changes to the main article. Thanks for your help. --djrobgordon 20:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Links in articles

  • Hello. Wikipedia is not supposed to be a collection of links. Only the most relevant links to relevant content should be listed. Links to a variety of clubs, schools and leisure facilities are non-relevant to an encyclopedic article about a place. Besides they are already linked within the article (I would probably say without need there either). The kind of links needed are those that provide similar content to the article title rather than things that are just associated by name. In this case the link to the Bromley Council general page about Orpington is of more value than a link to each place in the town. Have a look at WP:NOT in the links section it will probably explain better than I have here.Mrsteviec 11:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I totally agree with your reply. Kind regards. Mrsteviec 16:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] London Buses

Hi. I noticed you edited London Buses routes 1-10 recently. Just to let you know, I'm splitting this page because the article will be too big once complete.

Also, as you live in Orpington, could you tell me what buses run in your area? I live in South-East London, and only know of route 208.

Thanks --sonicKAI 13:54, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Welland, Peterborough

Thanks for the clarification. I went ahead and removed the links. --Qviri (talk) 19:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Avoid redirect" counter to WP:D

Hello CarolGray. Thank-you for your contributions to Wikipedia.

I would like to invite you to look at my comments on Talk:Redding under the topic "Avoid redirect" counter to WP:D.

Thanks. Duckbill 16:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. Of course most policies can be overridden by a more specific policy, or by a judgement call in certain special circumstances. WP:D lays down one policy, which so far I haven't found a case where there is a reason to go against, but if there are cases where there are reasons to go against, I'd be interested to find out. Thanks, Duckbill 16:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deutsches Schiffahrtsmuseum

Regarding your inquiry about basin vs. dock, I think basin may be more appropriate in that specific article - the ship was in fact kept in an indoor open container for 20 years and has never seen a dock in its modern life. --Doco 04:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Watershed

I'm following up on apparent differences between definitions of "watershed". Could you explain exactly how you use the term, please? To me, "watershed", "drainage basin" and "catchment" are essentially synonymous, although I wouldn't use "watershed" for large basins. Cheers, Daniel Collins 16:11, 18 March 2006 (UTC).

Thanks. After leaving the note I started searching. The OED is my first reference when confronted my multiple meanings, and I gathered the duality. I'm a Kiwi, a hydrologist, and have studied in the US for some time. There's a bias there, but I'm not sure how much in which way. I appreciate the duality and am working on amending the watershed page. I will likely be advocating the article explain the etymology of the word with an overview of the alternate meanings, and then point to water divide and drainage basin for a fuller treatment. Cheers, Daniel Collins 18:50, 18 March 2006 (UTC).
A follow-up question: How far away from the true ridge does the watershed extend, using your looser definition? Is it the entire hillside entire you enter a channel? Daniel Collins 19:16, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Could you review a draft I wrote, please? Daniel Collins 19:56, 18 March 2006 (UTC).

[edit] David Mitchell

David Mitchell (musician) would be perfect. Thanks. Cnwb 21:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Justin Cartwright

Many thanks for improving my Cartwright page. Can you give me some advice on how to ensure the image appears? Sorry, but I'm still feeling my way on Wikipedia...Davidcohen 23:16, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Watershed (again)

Hi Carol,

Just thought I'd let you know I've put in an official request on WP:RM for the Watershed article (now merged with your drainage basin article) to be moved to Drainage basin. The process requires a list of Support or Oppose votes, so if you want to repeat the vote you made at Talk:Drainage basin, you can do so at Talk:Watershed#Requested Move. Cheers — SteveRwanda 10:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Fixing "Sucess" with AWB

Thanks for the encouragement CarolGray! I will make sure to look out for that little word trap, thanks for the heads up! :) JoeSmack Talk 15:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marlow

Very many thanks for correcting the entry on Tim Janman. Of course Marlow is in Bucks. Don't know what I was thinking about! Sussexman 15:21, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation:List of post towns in the United Kingdom

Perhaps I'll stop working on disambiguating within this page for now as I see you're already doing it. I'm quite new to Wikipedia and have just installed popups. I wish / wonder if there was an even easier way to spot entries in need of DAB'ing. As you know, phrases are blue if they point to a valid link and red if they don't. Perhaps the colour or style scheme needs to be expanded: e.g. green for phrases which point to a valid link which is designed to redirect elsewhere; orange for phrases which point to a DAB page; purple for phrases where someone has tried to put in a link to a more meaningfully titled page but no page currently exists for it, e.g. I thought that Douglas would be better than just Douglas which would point to a DAB page (this example came from another page). Too many colours would not suit all readers because of the frequency of red-green colour blindness but it may be possible to have an option for turning on certain styles of type instead. What do you think? Samantha of Cardyke 12:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

On another matter, I wonder if it would be possible for Wikipedia to list pages with any 'green', 'orange' or 'purple' phrases so readers can take up the task easily? There should be options so people can search for pages in order of when they were first created / last updated, by category, pages on their own Watchlist, etc. Again, what do you think? Samantha of Cardyke 12:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Penwith

Nice going with the Penwith tidying :) - As you can see there is still a lot of work that needs doing on Penwith articles - A couple of us are trying to improve the quality/depth and have recently set up a project to organise things (yes I know the page is a bit of a mess at the moment, and doesn't look very professional!) I don't suppose that you would consider contributing to Penwith more regularly? We could use your skills. Let me know what you think Mammal4 15:21, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Image Tagging Image:Orpington Pond CG.jpg

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Thanks for uploading Image:Orpington Pond CG.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as {{Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. -SCEhardT 19:27, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - looks perfect now! -SCEhardT 19:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wilmington

I have changed the order so the three places that were bold are now listed at the top as "cities". Does this meet your needs? I found three bold things in a long list quite distracting. --Scott Davis Talk 23:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Good. It looks quite embarrassing when some little town in the country gets listed first just because Australia is the first significant english-speaking country in the alphabet. I had never heard of any of the Wilmingtons in the United States, so didn't realise that three were large cities. I've never been to those states. Thankyou for your help. --Scott Davis Talk 09:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wayne Hall

I'm not entirely sure, but I would guess at the Yorkshire club, when you consider the teams he played either side of Hatfield for are from Darlington and York. - Deathrocker 20:09, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Names and disambigs

Thanks for following up on the AN/I. I was beginning to feel like I was tilting at windmills... -- JHunterJ 20:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion request

When you have a moment, could you look at Tiamat (disambiguation) and Talk:Tiamat (disambiguation)#Other options? Much ado over precious little, I admit, but.... thanks. -- JHunterJ 20:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Not on the meaning of the Tiamats, but on the style of entries. Tiamat may refer to:
or Tiamat may refer to:
(with appropriate italics, etc.). I've since added some pointers in WP:MOSDAB and aligned WP:D with that advice. No heat here (really!), but the participation was rather limited (me and one other editor, along with the merge proposer). -- JHunterJ 12:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Disambiguation Talk Request

This is a form message being sent to all WikiProject Disambiguation participants. I recently left a proposed banner idea on the WikiProject Disambiguation talk page and I would appreciate any input you could provide. Before it can be approved or denied, I would prefer a lot of feedback from multiple participants in the project. So if you have the time please join in the discussion to help improve the WikiProject. Keep up the good work in link repair and thanks for your time. Nehrams2020 21:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] J+J's Discos

- Sorry about - I got an edit conflict as I was marking it for db-spam at the same time... Ian Cairns 16:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:CarolGray/Tewksbury

That's cool but that both you and my partner are called Carol Gray has slightly disturbed me anyway ;]] Jed keenan 22:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

For your corrections. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ethicalhacker (talk • contribs) .

[edit] happy Turkey-Day!!!!

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[edit] Redirect to Disambiguation template

There is nothing wrong with using that template. The reason why I removed it from those pages was because when you used it on those pages, it was used as R to (disambiguation) page. That template does not exist, and thus showed up as a broken redirect. If you remove the parentheses from around the word disambiguation, I uess it will work. Sorry for the confusion. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 12:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Benson

Feel free to revert. Just double check the surnames when you do, I edited a few flawed ones. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 19:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for comment on my campaign to become an administrator

Hello CarolGray, I hope that you are having a happy holiay season. I have recently been nominated to become an administrator here on Wikipedia. I am asking that since I have worked with you in the past that you stop by my nomination page and consider entering a vote, hopefully in support of my becoming an administrator.

  • Please feel free to communicate with me on my Talk page at User talk:No1lakersfan if you have any questions or reservations. Best wishes for a safe and happy holiday season. Thanks, --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 23:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Priestfield tram stop

I'm afraid that most tram stops are merely raised platforms, and hence no (or at least little) different from bus stops. I prod-ed it, but another editor has since AfD. Obviously some people do not agree with you. Since I see very little room for expansion, I though delete was the best option.

I recently prod-ed all the NET stop articles, and all but two were deleted, one now under AfD and looking like being deleted. Sadly, I feel this is how these will go.

I had the same idea with Supertram, and was in the process of creating articles, but was told that these were more appropriate on wikitravel.

L.J.SkinnerWOT?|CONTRIBS 21:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scarborough

I replied on my talk page before I read the enormous list of dab pages you're following. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 12:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fort William/Spaulding

Fixed the disambiguation issue. FYI the fort william mentioned is what became Ft. Larime in Wyoming. Aboutmovies 22:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chippenham

Thanks for the fix on the talk page. Yup works fine now!AlanD 22:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

No worries on that, makes sense. Thanks. AlanD 23:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the dab's you've done on the places in surrey pages I've recently worked on :) SuzanneKn 17:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] St. Mary's Studley Royal

Thank you for the link in the Burges article. I didn't know Wikipedia had an entry. I shall now add a little about Burges to it, who sadly isn't mentioned at all. KJP1

[edit] St Mary's again

Have rushed of a couple of paragraphs already, not nearly enough for a full article but I can never resist giving Burges a mention. Will return to it. Thanks again.

[edit] Disambiguation

Hi,
Thanks for the kind word about Saint John. I hope I didn't accidentally remove anything that might have gone in the "See also" section. Some people believe that disambiguation pages should catalog all topics with similar names, for the benefit of readers' undirected exploration (although the MoS confines entries of this type to "See also".) I don't like this idea much, but pages like the previous version of "Saint John" inspire me to implement it, at least a little. --Smack (talk) 01:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I had a different page in mind when I wrote that. I removed many, many entries from Grünwald (diff). You see, someone had apparently done some genealogical research. --Smack (talk) 01:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm baffled about what to do with St. Johns. I looked through WP:DAB and WP:MOSDAB and found no guidance. --Smack (talk) 05:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
It's not safe to assume that someone who grew up in New York went to the Saint John's University there rather than in Minnesota, although I'd say it's much more likely. In the US, the choice of location for one's schooling can be complicated. I grew up in the Los Angeles area, and am going to school elsewhere on the West Coast. As far as I remember, several people from my high-school class went to the East Coast, not necessarily because there are many good schools there, but just to go to the East Coast. However, probably half of the class stayed in the L.A. area. --Smack (talk) 18:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Saint Mary

Your plan sounds good! Thanks! I just wanted the articles on other similarly named saints to be found easily. Thanks again! --Polylerus 17:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mount St. Mary's

I noticed you just separated out the three colleges and one university from Mount St. Mary's into Mount Saint Mary's College. There's a lot of disambiguation necessary between schools, universities, seminaries, and colleges, and the original disambig had been working well for almost two years. It looks like you might be working on a larger effort relating to saints... Is there a plan that I'm missing here? Otherwise, I think Mount Saint Mary's College should be reverted to a redirect, and Mount St. Mary's should remain the "disambiguation central" for the related articles. Justen 14:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the confusion... By "reverted" I more precisely meant "restored." I'll make a point to use "restore," instead of "revert" in the future when I mean a mutually-agreed upon change! In any event, I think the original disambiguation would be best. I'll work on that. Justen 22:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] London Rowing Club

Spotted your disambiguation of the link to Henley. I would suggest though that the link is better made to Henley-on-Thames than to Henley Royal Regatta. Remenham Club has permanent buildings and land at Henley and although they are primarily used during the Regatta, that's not their only use; moreover Remenham Club isn't a formal part of the regatta organisation, its an entirely independent institution. James of Putney 17:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question re edits

Hi,

Can you explain why you've moved all the surnames out from the Holt disambiguation page? I see why you've cleaned it up and removed external links, etc., but as of now there's not even a link to the surname page, which surely a disambiguation page would have, and probably a list of people to whom Holt refers belongs there in the same way as the places and other meanings do.

Thanks, --Daniel11 08:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Delinking dab page

Why?[1] That's what dab pages are for. Guettarda 19:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

"I have added a link to the Belmont dab page for Belmont, Port of Spain. I didn't think there was a need for a link in the other direction"...umm, how not? How do you propose finding the pages that linked to that Belmont once the page is created, if you have removed their links to the dab page? Half the purpose of dab pages is to catch links to pages that don't exist yet. Guettarda 19:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It's nice to take a less condescending tone when dealing with people. If I didn't think that an article could have been written about the topic, why would I have created all the links to Belmont, Trinidad and Tobago? Hitting people over the head with policy pages is rude - with a newbie, you should explain, not just link. With anyone else, you shouldn't start with the assumption that they are ignorant of policy.

I'm not sure how you came up with 11 articles that include this Belmont - I found 15:

  1. Port of Spain
  2. List of steelbands
  3. Albert Gomes
  4. List of schools in Trinidad and Tobago
  5. Andy Ganteaume
  6. Ellis Achong
  7. Laventille
  8. List of cities and towns in Trinidad and Tobago
  9. Claudia Jones
  10. Charlie Davis
  11. Ian Bishop
  12. Bryan Davis
  13. Morvant
  14. Ellis Clarke
  15. David Rudder

It would have been much simpler to explain what you did when I first asked - that you had pointed the dablink to the Port of Spain article. Simply saying "I have added a link to the Belmont dab page for Belmont, Port of Spain" sounds like you pointed the dablink to Belmont, Port of Spain, not to Port of Spain#Belmont. Guettarda 15:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I should apologise too - I'm sure my tone was far more curt than it should have been. Sorry. Guettarda 21:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] London Meetup - January 12, 2008

Hi! There's going to be a London Wikipedia Meetup coming Saturday January 12, 2008. If you are interested in coming along take part in the discussion over a Wikipedia:Meetup/London7. The discussion is going on until tomorrow evening and the official location and time will be published at the same page late Thursday or early Friday. Hope to see you Saturday, Poeloq (talk) 01:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)