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Release date

Where is the source of the Release date change?? 66.245.97.5 00:52, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,15483,00.html. --b. Touch 22:32, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I think the dates should be updated/edited. It only shows the US and UK dates... this is a worldwide release, gentlemen/ladies. What do you suggest be done, though? Here is a full release date I found. [1] --Ramcosca 23:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Tow-truck's name?

Here it says that Larry the Cable Guy voices "Mater," yet on the actor's page, it refers to the character as "Larry the Tow Truck." Which is it? --Joe Sewell 21:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

IMDb says it's "Mater." I'll fix the other page if it's not done already. You can call me Al 18:31, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
The Full name is "Tow Mater" You can see a zoomed in image of the full name on his door here. http://www.etoys.com/genProduct.html?PID=4715352&ctid=17&_e=447dc&_v=447DC711I5IVaBE5E5C54C52
Tow Mater, as in tomater.
But, in the movie, he says his name is simply "Mater, like in Tuh-Mater, only without the tuh." I always took "Tow Mater" as the name of his business. --Joe Sewell 16:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The Death of Wally B.?

I've only seen the teaser once, but I remember that (sniff, sniff) the baby bee the truck kills is Wally B.. Is it true, or is my memory a little off? (please be #2, please be #2, please be #2...) --Wack'd About Wiki 17:25, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Okay, it's two. I checked. --Wack'd About Wiki 00:52, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Wally B. was the first ever PIXAR animated film (when it was owned by Lucas). The style and animation features of him are now too crude to be of any use in today's film standards. No, the bee in the trailer was a completly new animation. It was not Wally B. Hope this helps. -- Jason Palpatine 18:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Completion

The film is finished by this time, or so I've heard. So why don't we have much information? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wack'd About Wiki (talkcontribs) 00:52, 17 November 2005 (UTC).

Why Cars Will Suck

My links have been removed due to bias. So I decided to post them here in the discussion. Does everyone feel my links is spam?

Coincidentally a podcast titled Why Cars Will Suck:Bigger,Longer and In Syncwas uploaded two days prior (June 22, 2006) on to Google_Video pleading for Disney and Pixar to continue their partnership.(Skip to 19:24)

  • When I first read about the project, I was aprehensive at first -- especcially with the disapointment I got from THE (not so) INCREDIBLES. But knowing PIXAR, I still had my fingers crossed. I wasn't disapointed. The movie was a lot better than TnsI. -- Jason Palpatine 07:47, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Refer to the line where you say "My links..." and "I decided..." An objective encyclopedia should not be used to advertise your personal websites. Equally important is the fact that "Why Cars Will Suck" implies it was an opinion article written before the movie was actually released and therefore has no place in a factual discussion. (Try checing out the difference between fact and opinion) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.59.12.138 (talk) 13:04, 15 September 2006

Sunoco

It was recently added that the Dinoco sponsorship featured in the film was a spoof of the real oil company, Sunoco. Does anyone have anything that validates that or is it just speculation? If it's speculative, it should be removed. I'll give it some time before I remove it. Mongrel 14:27, 13 April 2006 (UTC).

Dinoco is not a parody of any gas station, Pixar just made it up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.85.35.122 (talk) 21:57, 15 April 2006
Yeah, Dinoco was originally seen in the first movie Toy Story. It's that gas station that Andy's mom, the truck driver, and the Pizza Planet delivery guy go to. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dogman15 (talkcontribs) 20:07, 27 May 2006.
Dinoco is actually a parody of Sunoco and Sinclair Oil. (GET THE PICTURE?!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.165.138.45 (talk) 09:32, 10 June 2006
Whether intended or not, it IS a pun. For this reason, I think it should stay. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.245.236.113 (talk) 16:55, 10 June 2006
The Dinoco logo is obviously based on Sinclair Oil's logo. I think the connection with Sunoco is speculative. I could just as well be portmanteau of dino-saur and Texa-co. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rsduhamel (talkcontribs) 15:21, 6 August 2006.
I thought the references to "Sunoco" is just that "Dinoco" rhymes. But there were many other fuel companies with the "oco" ending. Maybe Sunoco is more available in the West/California? You don't see many Sunocos in Michigan for instance. Nor Texacos, Citgos and otheros. 82.93.133.130 13:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
A lot of gasoline companies have "oco" in their names because it used to stand for "Oil COmpany" (as in Sun Oil Company = SUNOCO). Thus Dinoco could just be "Dinosaur Oil Company". Powers T 16:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

All the advertising names are spoofs - making fun of Nascar - everything is advertising

  • Piston Cup - Winston Cup - they had no idea when they started it would now be "NEXTEL Cup"
  • Lightyear tires and blimp - Goodyear - also spoofs Toy Story as a bonus.
  • Dinosaurs are said to be the source of oil, also a reason.
  • Sinclair is a common gas station on the route of old Route 66 - another reason.
  • Texaco, AMOCO, ARCO, are other common stations following Rt 66 as Interstate 44 and 55, the later names picked because they fit the Interstate naming system (so Rt.66 could not become an Interstate)

Kidsheaven 23:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Other Cars

On the poster, there are a whole bunch of other cars- we all need to know their names.

I need to know the name of the car with the grafitti and the spoiler that looks like a ladder.

  • His name is Wingo --Mongrel 04:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
    • How do you know?
      • Wingo --Mongrel 07:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
        I have seen the movie four times, and I can tell you 100% sure that that is Wingo. Mysterypaw
        • Is he some kind of juvenile street racer or something? because the other souped up cars next to him look his age (like Snot Rod)
  • He is indeed a street racer...*spoiler ahead* He is part of the "gang" that causes Mack to fall asleep and causes Lightning McQueen to roll out of the back of the truck onto the freeway. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.158.35.211 (talk) 22:40, 27 May 2006

I also need to know what the name of other NASCARs are.

I also need to know the names of the two Hummer H1s on the poster.

  • Actually, the yellow Hummer is The Governator. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.245.200.128 (talk) 15:47, May 18, 2006


Then the kid cars, the two Mazda Miatas.

  • Lia and Mia are the Mazda twins. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.245.200.128 (talk) 15:47, May 18, 2006
    • Actually, it's Mia and Tia. (Goof on "Miata", of course.) MacPrince 16:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Then the combine harvester in the trailer.

  • That's farmer McReedy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.245.200.128 (talk) 15:47, May 18, 2006
    • Actually, he's Frank the bull. --Joe Sewell 16:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, the red lowrider (not Ramone).

The I need to know what that really huge vehicle is in the way back of the poster. - Next to the community center, behind Mack.

  • Those are RV's, they are in the infield during races, sometimes seen holding two oil barrels on their sides and drinking from them both at the same time. In front of the RV's are tractors. In the movie, tractors = cows. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.158.35.211 (talk) 22:45, 27 May 2006

And the name of the helicopter, bi-plane, and blimp.

  • As far as I could remember, they don't have names. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.158.35.211 (talk) 22:45, 27 May 2006

Then the flat-front Dodge Van and the rusty used car (on the French trailer, his whole jaw drops when he sees Sally)

  • They are Clink and Clunk --Mongrel 04:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Actually, the rustic car is Fred, Clink must be the truck in front of Clunk. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.186.147.27 (talk) 16:08, 14 May 2006
    • Is Clink the rusty one? And Clunk is the van, what kind of model is he? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.60.42.212 (talk) 20:44, 19 April 2006

Darrel Cartrip, where in the poster is he.

  • He's the car with the flamejob next Chick Hicks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.245.200.128 (talk) 15:47, May 18, 2006


The other NASCARs-

The enraged yellow and black one.

The orange one that looks confused.

The lowrider sports car next to the enraged yellow NASCAR.

Clink and Clunk- who are they?

  • See Above. --Mongrel 04:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Please find out

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.60.225.93 (talk) 02:39, 17 April 2006

What about the Peterbilt on the poster, on the website interactive poster, he has a voice clip. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.186.147.27 (talk) 16:08, 14 May 2006

Who is Harv and Darrel Cartrip?

Who is Harv? It says his name on the page, played by Jeremy Piven, I have to know who he his.

  • This is Jeremy Piven. You should try doing a search on Yahoo, Google, or anything else before asking. It wasn't tough information to find. --Mongrel 23:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm talking about Harv? Is he like the Hummer or something.
  • Harv was the agent who was never seen; when he was talking, it showed the phone thingy. Gromreaper 05:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Harv is visible briefly on the phone, is a generic boxy blue car, that's code for K-car, THE generic 80s car.--Wiarthurhu 07:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
    • The car that appears on the plasma TV when McQueen is talking to Harv is not Harv -- that is just news footage that McQueen is playing. That blue car is Chuck Manifold, the RSN "anchorcar". We can see him again during the "where's McQueen" sequence, just after the Governator speech. So, is Chuck Manifold who is a Plymouth Reliant. -- leandrompm 03:33, 09 July 2006 (UTC)

Who is Darrell Cartrip, what does he look like?

  • Cartrip will most likely be one of the other racecars. --Mongrel 23:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
    • He's the flamejob car next to Chick Hicks on the poster. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.245.200.128 (talk) 15:47, May 18, 2006

See above, stacked headlights are characterestic of 76 Monte Carlo or 78 Cordoba, but Waltrip did drive a 76 Monte Carlo, so that settles it.--Wiarthurhu 07:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know...

I didn't know you liked the movie Cars, Tregoweth, or are you hunting me down? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.60.49.138 (talk) 19:24, May 2, 2006

I'm looking forward to the movie, but, no, I'm not hunting you down, just cleaning up the talk pages that are moving away from discussing the article. tregoweth 01:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • But seriously, those character comments, I want to know the names of certain characters. If you find out what the name of the Hummers are, please tell me? Thanks. Also, I have a few questions on the Walt Disney Home Entertainment talk page that need to be answered. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.60.206.106 (talkcontribs) .

Quotes

Um, the quotes...really aren't that interesting. And should probably go to Wikiquote anyway. Thoughts? tregoweth 22:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Completely agree, but was reluctant to remove them myself. Powers 23:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Agreed. --Mongrel 00:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I think we should put the funny ones in like,"She just likes me for my body." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.60.42.182 (talk • contribs) .
    • Funny is subjective (case in point, the one you quoted). Powers 13:05, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
      • The rules of this website are so picky, it's called " The Free Encyclopedia Anyone can Edit," right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.202.46.27 (talk) 16:21, 10 May 2006
        • So if funny is subjective why bother having a quote page at all? Isn't a "good" quote or an "important" quote also subjective? If everything is subjective why don't we just end up quoting the whole movie? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.59.12.138 (talk) 13:06, 15 September 2006

Ray tracing?

Did they ray trace the whole movie? -- Toytoy 12:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The whole movie is rendered using PhotoRealistic RenderMan, which either does reyes rendering, ray tracing or a variety of Global illumination algorithms even more demanding than ray tracing. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 13:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Information Seriously Needed

The film is so close to release, we need more characters and models listed in the "cast" section of the article.

We need these characters and their voices and car models.

  • Wingo (I'm surprised no info was revealed about this character, he is the most complex)
    • That must be a joke. Wingo takes up maybe 60 seconds total in the movie.
  • Snot Rod (as by looking at the new trailer, he looks like a wannabe)
  • Boost
  • Turbo
  • The Ferrari (on the French Trailer, he randomly sees Luigi and Guido)
    • The Ferrari is Formula 1 World Champion Michael Schumacher. *spoiler* He stops in to buy tires from Luigi near the end of the movie.
  • Harv
  • Darrell Cartrip
  • The Hummers
  • The lowriders
  • The minivans (seen on the Pixar podcast, they are vacationing in radiator springs)
  • the other racecars

we NEED that info, we got to do further research on this movie. Whos with me? 67.186.147.27 16:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

  • BTW, does Red talk at all in the film? Joe Ranft died during production. 4.245.173.96 01:13, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Visual References in Poster

Just wanted to point out a couple of visual art/architecture references in the final promotional poster. I don't know if they're significant enough to be placed on the article page, but:

  • Near the street, in the back, is a stack of tires possibly designed to mimic the Leaning Tower of Pisa.
Yes, it is, but in the film, it's called the Leaning Tower of Tires. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.60.49.220 (talk) 19:45, 24 May 2006
  • The tall rocky formations which form the horizon are designed to resemble Cadillac Ranch.
Yes, that's true, I have brochure for the film that says that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.60.49.220 (talk) 19:45, 24 May 2006
  • Does anyone know what, if anything, the round butte in the middle distance is meant to resemble? It looks familiar and is obviously a contrived shape, rather than a natural landform.

216.78.53.168 18:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Looks like a gas cap to me. Maybe a radiator cap (and thus, Radiator Springs)? MacPrince 04:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm more curious about the "RS" inscribed just beneath it. =) Powers 19:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Radiator Springs, I think... 216.78.53.168 19:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Radiator Springs is true. Radiator cap on top is also true.--Ramcosca 23:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks like an air cleaner. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.242.229.37 (talk) 17:37, 22 June 2006

I think the butte is supposed to resemble like a giant wheel or something car related, like a motor since it is a film about cars. Did anyone notice that Flo's V-8 Cafe resembles Googie-style gas stations from the 1950's? (That did that with Dinoco on Toy Story). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.60.49.220 (talk) 19:45, 24 May 2006

Year model of Lizzie

What year model is Lizzie? because Model Ts were made from 1908 to 1927. User:Imax80

No plot details allowed?

Why was all of (the beginning of) my detailed plot synopsis deleted?[2] The notation was "an overly detailed summary is not necessary" but I'll cite The Matrix as just one example of other movies that goes into just as much specific detail of explaining the plot of the movie. I can possibly write a less detailed summary but before I do more work to have it deleted, I'd like somebody to point out some specific Wikipedia guideline to backup this decision. Fife Club 04:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

On an unrelated side note, why is the release date still June 9th? It already had it's world premiere to the general public on May 27th. I know that it didn't open nationwide yet but doesn't 40,000 people people seeing the movie still count as being released?

It's not that plot details aren't allowed; it just seemed like overkill, particularly as (1) the movie isn't even out yet, and (2) the plot isn't really complex enough to require transcribing everything that happens. But if you really want to add it, go ahead, and I'll leave it alone (though I reserve the right to fix typos and such :) ).
Also, the date that it is released to multiple theaters is generally considered the release date; world premieres usually aren't counted. See the IMDb, where premieres and official opening dates are usually listed separately. tregoweth 15:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Regal or Monte Carlo

The Cars website does not identify the 80s GM stocker. I first identified as a Regal, then it was changed to Monte Carlo, now it's a Regal again. I think the bevel nose, and the fame of the Buick stockers makes it a Buick. Any other opinions?

Wiarthurhu 16:51, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Voice cast

We need the voice casts for these characters-

  • Wingo
  • Snot Rod
  • Boost
  • DJ
  • The Govenator
  • Mia and Tia

There are also several other actors and actresses listed that don't have characters, like Dale Jr., Alonso, and the others.

Mater/Lightning picture flipped

The third picture on this article (of Mater and Lightning from the Teaser Trailer) has been flipped. If you look closely at it, Lightning's "95" on his side is backwards, making it look kinda like "2e". Is there any way this can be fixed? dogman15 23:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

It was also obviously backwards because Mater's headlight was on the wrong side. I fixed this by flipping the image and re-uploading it. - Brian Kendig 22:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Character cards

Here are a few high-res character card images. http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/52/2752/gal2404/index_hi.php There are others but I haven't been able to find them in this high of resolution, especially Doc Hudson.

As for Doc Hudson, where are the stills (and merchandise!) with the character in its racing paintjob? I have a stack of Doc Hudson stuff, it'd be bigger if Disney would produce some with the racing scheme!

Lightning's design inspiration

The entry says Lighting is a completely fictional car based on a Ford GT-40. After looking at that link, it looks nothing like the lead character in Cars. Are there any published interviews that states what model is? To me, he has some Dodge Viper-ish elements more than anything.

Susie the Little Blue Coupe

Maybe we should talk about it ? 193.56.37.1 11:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Trivia

The trivia section should be deleted. It's full of original research. We should wait on this section until something verifiable can be cited, such as a DVD commentary. -- Malber (talkcontribs) 15:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Delete it. The trivia section is mostly sillyness. "Mack wears a hat, like a trucker" (or maybe a fisherman, or a carpenter); "Doc Hudson has white-wall tires but no curb finders."; "It's doubtful that dinosaurs existed in the Cars world." Maybe someone should add that it's doubtful that car can really talk. -- Rsduhamel (talkcontribs) 14:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Does it qualify as original research if it's blantantly obvious? If I look up at the sky and say "The sky is blue?" are you going to call that "original research" and make me delete it? (Actually, "blue" would probably be considered subjective. And then someone would ask me to define "sky." And "the." And "is.") —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.59.12.138 (talk) 13:08, 15 September 2006
To answer the question, yes. Wikipedia cannot declare the sky is blue no matter how blue it is. It can only report that "it has been published b y reliable sources that the sky is blue." Sucks, I know. But that's an encyclopedia. Dikke poes 13:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Removed Doc Hollywood material

I removed this list. Much of the information was original research comparing both films. Most of the inline citations listed were from minor critics, and the references to Doc Hollywood were slight. I did incorporate the AP review into the main paragraph and added a ref footnote. I just don't find the similarities that remarkable and the comparisons don't contribute to the article. The plot to Doc Hollywood wasn't all that original to begin with. "Fish-out-of-water" stories are quite common, and an argument could be made that Doc Hollywood ripped off the TV show Northern Exposure. -- Malber (talkcontribs) 17:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm cool with this - just as long as the DH wikilink stays in the article. Reusing an everyplot is one thing, but reusing several exact plot elements of another filmmaker's lower-budget film without attribution or appreciation is another. Very many (50+?) reviewers call Cars a "DH with cars". Being Pixar gives them no right.
And yeah, the trivia section already takes 35% of the length of the article. It's no longer funny. --Perfecto 18:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

song title?

anyone knows what plays during the part where the dj and other tuners come in the movie...

if i remembered right it was quite heavy on the bass

Dstan 12:49, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm curious about this, too.. Sounds like an interesting song if you're into that sort of thing (which I am, for what it's worth) Madmaxmarchhare 16:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

It's Kenny G, popular in late 80s, forget the title, but it was his biggest hit. See casting for DJ, and moral, removed, that Kenny G may impair alertness in driving. --matador300 18:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

ERRRR.. thanks for the try, but we were looking for the song that they are playing when they first drive up to Mack Truck, not what they put him to sleep with. You know what? I went and saw the movie again and missed the song credits because I was once again watching all the other stuff going on the screen. DOH! Madmaxmarchhare 02:11, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Could be just something generic that Pixar came up with? I wouldn't know myself (as I wasn't totally paying attention to the music), but that is my guess PYLrulz 10:16, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
That's always a possibility--if I would have been looking at the credits instead of everything else, this might all be settled.. until then, then.. Madmaxmarchhare 18:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

It called "Rollin' in the rearview" Performed by Jabu. This was taken off the DVD credits staff roll. BTW, the song used to put Mack to sleep is called "Songbird" by Kenny G DCJoeDog 15:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Arnold Schwarzenegger

I highly doubt that Schwarzenegger was in this, the Hummer is only shown for 3 seconds, and that was someone at Pixar mimicing his voice. For now, Arnold is the governor of California, he wouldn't have time to visit any movie studios. Site a source for this claim, thank you. User:Imax80.

Although I do believe you're correct in asking that this be verified, in reality, no one has to "visit" any studies to do voice-overs nowadays (for quite some time). High-quality equipment could have easily been taken to his locale. Madmaxmarchhare 23:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I thought it sounded like an imitation, myself. —tregoweth (talk) 02:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
According to IMDB (and I looked through the list 4-5 times, and there is no mention of Arnold Schwartzenegger, however, they do not have the "Governor Hummer" listed in the credits as well, so either Schwartzenegger did do the part, but was uncredited, or it is someone impersonating him. More investaging will probably be necessary. [3], heres the link PYLrulz 10:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

For the Birds birds

How are you even sure that those birds are the ones from that short? You pass them in less than a second. Everythingthat lives in that movie is a car, even the flies are mini-cars.

  • It may be worth mentioning, if only because a lot of people think it's a For the Birds reference, whether it is or not. —tregoweth (talk) 02:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
  • A lot of people coudn't see it. So how would they they're the birds from For the Birds.
  • Oh, I think those are *definitely* the Birds birds... They made the exact same sound. If they hadn't made the sound I might have missed it, but they're definitely them. Also, I was a little unclear who the airplanes are... I kept looking for them to be cars of some kind but it never panned out... Aaronw 04:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't think we'll know for certain until the DVD release, but considering Pixar's penchant for slipping in references to their other movies and the fact that the sound (and blur of color) seemed to match the short's characters perfectly, I'd have to assume that the "For The Birds" birds are in the movie. Imdwalrus 07:47, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • They are. I saw them. If I could prove it, I would. dogman15 05:25, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
  • No need to prove it, I have the DVD and I went frame by frame and they are the birds from the short film DCJoeDog 16:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
My question is, I know those are the Birds (you can see them on frame by frame as Joe said), but I don't recall being able to hear "distinctive chirps." The person who added that line is a good-faith editor, I checked; but I thought the Life Is A Highway song was playing suring that scene???? Someone let me know here. Dikke poes 13:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
If you're referring to my edit, I added the word "distinct", but only as a reword. I felt the word "unique" (added previously) was not the best choice of wording. Since I don't have the DVD yet, I can't verify the original editor's comment about the chirps being heard. Since several editors here, though, say the sound is there, I trust it's there. It does seem a bit WP:OR-y, though (not to mention that the whole Trivia section, especially one so long, is generally frowned upon here), so I won't complain if it's removed. --Fru1tbat 13:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Production Budget

How much did the movie cost User:Imax80

UK Running Time?

Is there a source other than the IMDB for the UK running time of 121 mins (vs 116 for the USA)? Seeing as the movie doesn't open in Britain for another month, I'm wondering where this info came from. I'd heard a rumor from a friend connected to the animation world that some stuff that bored children in test audiences was trimmed before the US opening, which has me quote curious as to whether a longer cut is being released in the UK and perhaps elsewhere.Andrewjnyc 01:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

  • The BBFC says it's 121 minutes [4]. Maybe the U.S. time is incorrect? —tregoweth (talk) 02:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Let's make this a featured article

This page is currently a candidate for featured articles. It isn't getting any support. Let's work to make Cars (film) a featured article! Follow the opposers' suggestions. KdogDS 22:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Morals

I'm in favor of deleting this section, mainly because it's irrelevant and no other pages have it. A "themes" section might be preferable. --Nqnpipnr(16:35, June 27, 2006)

I agree, this is an enclyclopedia, not a psycological analysis of the morality protrayed in the movie. (next time sign your post with 4 tildes ~~~~please)pschemp | talk 18:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Will do. I've deleted it, also.Nqnpipnr 21:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)Nqnpipnr

I'm in favor of restoring it, a lot of users appreciate it, and it spells out the messags for the parents to transmit to their kids.--matador300 18:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC) likewise people please post messsages here, I don't think 2 confirmations makes it a good idea to delete. Cars is a childrens movie, one moral had a citation from a review, and the articles aesop's fables and morals do exist as children's literature, which this is, it's not just war of the worlds.

--matador300 18:08, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

    • This movie's moral lesson is extremely heavy-handed. If you watched the movie and still need it spelled out for you, then you must be deaf, blind, and dumb. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.59.12.138 (talk) 13:11, 15 September 2006

Joe Ranft Tribute

Was the little memory thing showing the different characters from past movies at the end a tribute to Joe Ranft. All of the characters I noticed were ones that he had voiced. 03:07, 29 June 2006 (UTC)Chuckyc

Yeah, you must have been focused on the images and not reading the scroll. =) Powers 16:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Oh so it did say that. Woops, so do you think it deserves to be mentioned? Chuckyc 20:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)Chuckyc
I think the item in the Trivia section is sufficient. Powers 23:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

DJ, Boost, Wingo, and Snot Rod

Just a question: I know that Snot Rod was the sneezy one in orange, but what colors where the others?--Kanjilearner55 22:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Using the toy line as reference...
  • Wingo is green with purple on his front end and the ladder-esque spoiler
  • DJ is blue with a wide spoiler
  • Boost appears to be purple
  • Snot Rod is orange
--Imdwalrus 07:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you!--Kanjilearner55 13:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

See this article here: The Delinquent Road Hazards.

Kori Turbowitz

Is she really a Ford Taurus? She seems to be a 2-door coupe with pop-up headlights, and I don't remember any Taurus like that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.227.136.251 (talk • contribs) .

The Poser SUV Hummer

Just as you know, it's a Hummer H1 wagon. First off, the back has 4 windows and two doors. The grill has circle headlights, and 7 ovalur slats, and the bull bars are from Hummer H1s, also the sides are from an H1, just because it has spinners doesn't make it an H2. It's an H1. Who else thinks it's an H1? Because I have an H2, and I can tell the difference between that and the H1. Imaxination 80 --Imax80 23:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Incredibly obvious it's an H1 DCJoeDog 16:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Good Article nomination has failed

The Good article nomination for Cars (film)/Archive 1 has failed, for the following reason(s):

This article is not ready for either WP:FA or WP:GA at the moment, because:
  • Too many fair use images; reduce to five.
  • Has only half of its sources cited.
  • ==Trivia==, a trifle for high-quality pages, needs to be merged elsewhere in the article.
  • A little too long (42 K's at current). Maybe the plot needs to be simplified and shorter, and maybe a few sections removed.
  • As of writing, the film in question has been out for a month now. (Current events do not make good subjects for articles of this calibre.) Wait until the end of the year or early 2007 to re-submit.
  • In the meantime, see The Care Bears Movie and Bionicle: Mask of Light for examples of GAs dealing with animated films.

To those who wish to address the above concerns, good luck and happy editing. --Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 03:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

A little long? Pff. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith is a featured article and is 56k long, 10k longer than Cars.KdogDS 18:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Bob Cutlass

Wouldn't he be a Cutlass and not an Aurora? Skywatcher68 18:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

You would think so except he looks like a late model Aurora, not any year of cutlass, which is what he was originally identified as. The most popular cutlass would be a 1970 "442" --matador300 22:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC).
They did revive the Cutlass model in the late '90s and I thought Bob looked like he had the split grlle characteristic to those models.(Skywatcher68 22:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC))

Dinoco Girls

Anyone knows what model are they? They look like a 2 door coupe, like Kori. -- leandrompm 09:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Rejected Characters

Where any characters that Pixar rejected before making this film? Storm05 16:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I dunno. Wait until the DVD comes out November 7th. dogman15 05:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Article Status

This article has been nominated for both FA and GA status in the past, and has failed both times. Oh well. It'll happen later. Anyway, great job whoever has edited this. You've done a great job. Anyway, how good do you guys think this article is right now? please post! KdogDS 01:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Identity of Mrs. The King

Wherever Mr. Waltrip said she's a Plymouth, he's wrong. Here's a '72 Plymouth (http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/1972_Plymouth_Sport_Suburban.html), here's a '73 Plymouth (http://www.allpar.com/images/plymouth/1973/suburban.jpg), and here are some '73 Chryslers (http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/1973_Chrysler_TownCountry.html) Which one looks more like Mrs. The King? Skywatcher68 20:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Don't plame Darrell, he was just reading a script. Blame the animators. Wahkeenah 02:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Nascar and various rules.

Nascar has a green, white, checker (G-W-C) rule now. The drivers are given one chance to finish the race under the Green Flag if under 10 laps to go a caution flag comes out. Once the race track is cleared for racing, they are given the green flag, then the white flag, then the checkered flag. If, at any point with this rule in effect, the yellow flag has to come out once again, the race will then be finished under the yellow flag. This rule was brought about because of fan reaction and acceptance from the Craftsman Trucks Series, then gradually moved up to the now Nextel Cup.

Another rule for Super Speedways (like Daytona or Talladega), is if just over 5 laps to go, the race can be red flagged, but, if under 5 to go, the the race must try to continue with the G-W-C rule. Along with that rule, Super Speedways are the only tracks with an out-of-bounds rule, where the drivers are not to advance their position going under the yellow line to the driver's left. If forced, the rule is usually ignored, but if intentional, the driver is black flagged and must perform a drive through penalty through pit road at pit speed (around 45 MPH). This rule was brought about to control the wild fanning out on backstraights of Daytona and Talladega, which usually ended up in a large wreck in or before Turn 3.

As far as I know, there isn't a rule against a car pushing another car over the finish line. I'll do some more reasearch on it.

--64.24.85.40 03:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)Justin Banner jbanner@gmail.com

Actually, there is a rule about it (heard about it one time during this one NASCAR show, I guess years back, there were a few instances of drivers (mainly teammates) pushing one another across the finish line if the race was gonna be a fuel milage race, so that rule got changed around. PYLrulz 11:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Does it matter? I bet the rules are different in a league where the cars are doing the driving. =) Powers 13:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Not really, but its always fun finding out little facts and such :) PYLrulz 04:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
In that case, I would like to point out that since this was a tiebreaker race, the fact that Lightning pushed The King over the finish line probably doesn't affect the final standings anyway; it was a purely symbolic gesture. =) Powers 14:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I know, but when I had put that out there, I was just pointing out one difference. Thats all :) PYLrulz 19:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

This talk page is getting pretty long

Should we archive it? Imax80 17:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

The crash

According to Richard Petty, in the reference cited at the end of the paragraph, the crash was an exact recreation of his crash in the 1988 Daytona 500. After viewing the video of Petty's actual crash it's obvious he is giving some artistic license (mainly, in the real crash the car stayed on the track and there was a pretty nasty secondary collision in the real crash). However the general motion of The King in the film crash is pretty close to a frame-by-frame recreation of the motion of Petty's car in the first half of the real crash.

I removed the reference that the crash may have been Rusty Wallace's 1993 crash mainly because Petty says the crash was his. Unless Rusty Wallace comes back and says "no, that was my crash" Petty's opinion should stand. Rsduhamel 16:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Video of Petty's crash

I know what your talking about, and the thought of the 1988 crash never crossed my mind. I was personally thinking it was a replication of his crash in Darlington in 1970, or the said Rusty Wallace crash. PYLrulz 08:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The King's Crash

According to the trivia section for Cars on www.imdb.com, The King's crash is a frame-by-frame re-creation of Petty's crash at the 1988 Daytona - I added that to the Trivia section here with the Spoiler warning either side of it. Looking through the article here again, I see this contradicts the information in the Individual Character section for The King, where it is described as a re-creation of Rusty Wallace's crash at Talladega in 1993. One of these facts is correct - which one is it?

Whichever is correct, I think the spoiler warning should be used wherever talking about the crash happens - it is quite a pivotal moment in the film.StephenBuxton 06:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Route 66 song: Not really a blues

Not to tread on another writer's work, but the article refers to the song "(Get Your Kicks on) Route 66" as a blues song. I would propose that it should be called a pop song: written by Bobby Troup, first popularized by Nat "King" Cole. Sure, it's been sung by the likes of Chuck Berry and the Stones, but even the Wiki article Route 66 (song) refers to it as a pop standard. --MarkMcDermott 13:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Removed one "reference"

I removed the reference that read: "*In Finding Nemo when it shows the fish escaping at the end, it shows Luigi pass by. But many confuse it being on the escape plan scene. But Luigi appears complete with eyes." It wasn't particularly clear, and if my reading of it is correct, not only does it belong in the Finding Nemo article instead, but it also needs to be verified. --Jay (Histrion) (talkcontribs) 13:32, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I found the image on a thread on carsthetoys.com, you'll find it by going to the message board, Cars- The Toys and then look for it. Imax80 23:00, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Ages

I don't know where else to put this. Are there any sources that verify any of the character's ages? I haven't been able to find any, and there have been people claiming that Mater is 19, and Chick is 11. I have changed all relevant ages to 'Unknown' until a source can be found verifying what age they are. RMS Oceanic 14:54, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure the concept of "ages" is useful for this article (or List of Cars characters, or any of the individual character pages), since "age" appears to be based on model year, making Sally 3 and Lizzie 82. It's clear (given that Sally is an '02 Porsche) the cars are "born" adult, so the usefulness of knowing that Sally is a 3-year-old model is virtually nil. Powers T 20:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Then what is the best way of dealing with it? You can't delete the age category, because it still appears on the character box. I think we need to reach a resolution and apply it to all the characters, because the constant switching of ages everytime I look at an article is annoying. RMS Oceanic 09:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think the category is very relevant, or supported in the context of the movie. It'd be one thing if the DVD release came out and put their ages in some character biography section, but until that, I say delete the category. FrozenPurpleCube 09:56, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I've created a new template, Cars character, which is more customised for them, and doesn't have an age category. I've tested it on Doc Hudson and Lightning McQueen, and I think it looks alright. Until we get an age info file from an official Pixar source, use this template. RMS Oceanic 12:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Just wanted to pop in here with the FYI that the cars are NOT born as adults since a child car is clearly shown in the part where the jets do the fly-over DCJoeDog 16:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Break Off Sections?

Since the article is very long, I was thinking that a couple of sections could be made into their own articles, or redistributed into other articles, to reduce the size of this one.

  • The Merchandising Section - Could the Video Game section be joined with this, and all moved into an offshoot article?
  • The Individual Character Section - Most of this information can be (or already has been) said on the individual character articles.

Your thoughts? RMS Oceanic 17:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

DVD Box Art

Now that the DVD is almost out, perhaps the main picture at the top of the page should be changed to show the official box art? I saw what it looks like in a Best Buy ad.
dogman15 04:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I've got to admit, I like the current poster better. I'm not opposed to the DVD image appearing in the article, but it's just not that pretty. FrozenPurpleCube 04:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with FrozenPurpleCube. The movie poster looks so much better. Besides, The Incredibles still has its movie poster, which also looks better than the DVD cover. RMS Oceanic 05:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Kylie the Santa Fe (?)

Hi

I've not seen Cars, but I've found what looks like a rogue 'Cars' article. I was checking the links to steamroller and found Talk:Kylie the Santa Fe, which looks like a Cars article that has been dropped in the wrong place (there is only a talk page, no article!). Over to you, I think!

EdJogg 23:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Good find. I've marked it for speedy deletion as a talk page for an article that doesn't exist. Powers T 00:51, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Overanalyzing?

One version of this site included the fact "...and minor characters Mini and Van (a pun on the word "Minivan")." I can't imagine what kind of person would read "Mini" and "Van" and actually need someone else to explain the joke to them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.59.12.138 (talk) 13:18, 15 September 2006

I agree. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.12.157.49 (talk) 08:20, 11 December 2006

Merchandise and Video Game Split?

In an effort to reduce the size of the article, I think it would be prudent to create a new article for Cars-related merchandise, including brief summaries of the video games, and move the information from this article into it. Is this a good idea? Are there any other sections that may warrant moving? RMS Oceanic 12:58, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

The tuner cars

Okay, you may think Wingo, DJ, Snot Rod, and Boost are real life models. But they aren't, you know why? Because the diecast toys prove this.

If there is a diecast model of a real car character, a license of the dealer appears at the bottom (for instance, The King has a Chrysler License under it). But the four tuners don't have a license under them so therefore they are lookalikes of the models you all think they are. Imax80 21:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Or maybe those companies in question didn't insist on a copyright notice. In the Die-Cast line of Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends, Gordon the Big Engine is clearly based on the LNER Class A3 (Such as Flying Scotsman) and Duck the Great Western Engine is clearly based on the GWR 5700 Class tank engine, but on all packaging for both characters that I've read, I have yet to see such a copyright notice by the owners of the copyright. RMS Oceanic 06:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The Romanian Article

Could someone translate the Romanian Article for Cars, so we know how to improve the English article? If they can reach FA, so can we! RMS Oceanic 12:09, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

¿Pixar Spoofs?

This entries in the list of characters:

  • Woody = Ford Woodie wagon
  • Buzz Lightyear = Toy Spaceship Car
  • Flik = 1966 Volkswagen "Bug"
  • Mike Wazowski = Isetta
  • Sulley = Monster Truck
  • Abominable = Snowplow Snowcat
  • Hamm = small SUV
  • P.T. Flea = Unknown Car

¿Are they correct? I'll see the movie again. I don't remember them. Arabigo 12:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

In what way do you mean correct? Do you mean those are the correct Car Models, or do you mean if they are actually in the film. If that's the case, then these are correct. During the credits, there's a scene where everyone's in the Drive-In Theater, and three parodies of previous Pixar Movies (Toy Story, Monsters, Inc. and A Bug's Life, respectively) play, showing how those films would have been done in the Cars world. RMS Oceanic 12:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Dusty the Dart?

On the main page, Dusty (the movie character) is listed as a Dodge Dart. However, he looks more to me like a Plymouth Duster. Also, this would make more sense since his name is "Dusty," which is more similar to Duster than to Dart. Thoughts? Comments? Dusty duster 19:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Tom and Ray think it's a Dart, but that was before they'd seen the movie: [5]. Powers T 14:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, here's the 1963 Dodge Dart: Image:DodgeDart1963.jpg. Check out the headlights, the dual striping down the entire length of the car, and the elevation of the rear wheel well. Now look at Dusty Rust-eze: [6]. He's definitely a Dart. Powers T 14:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
MMMM, I hadn't gotten that good a look at him before. From watching the actual movie once or twice I saw just the grille and headlights, heard "Dusty" and thought "Duster."Dusty duster 12:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I do know that when interviewed, the Tappet Brothers said that they were Clank and Clunk (or something similar) and they were represented by the cars they are most associated with. The nasty one with food in his beard (Ray?) always has a Dart that they speak about never running and having grass grow in the back seat. Pixar not only changed the names but I think they also changed the models too. Dikke poes 13:25, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

UK Running Time

Okay, solved everything, the actual runtime for the movie 121 minutes in the US and the UK. People originally thought it was "126 minutes" in UK, because the shirt film "One Man Band" is shown after the BBFC Classification screen, so the actual runtime of the movie in "every" country is 121 minutes. --Imax80 01:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The King's crash - disputed fact

According to Petty, the crash is a frame-by-frame replay of his crash. According to some here, it is of Rusty Wallace. As this information is disputed, I have removed it. Perhaps when the DVD is released, the commentary might close this dispute once and for all.

Incidentally, this trivia, along with both sides of the argument, is included in the entry for The King.StephenBuxton 12:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

As the DVD has now been released in Australia, has anyone there got it yet and can confirm who's crash was copied?StephenBuxton 20:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Mrs. Andretti or Mrs. Schumacher?

I don't remember Mario's wife being shown and a 2005 Maserati would go more along with Michael, but I don't remember a wife for him, either. Anyone know for sure? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skywatcher68 (talkcontribs) .

Andretti was accompanied by a female car as he entered the race; Schumacher just had some buddies with him. Powers T 23:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for Consideration of External Link

Please consider including this article in the external links section: Cars: the Road Less Traveled at the Bosque Boys. The article provides a brief review and unique discussion of the distinctly "socially conservative" messages contained within this film and Pixar products in general. Thanks for your consideration. Acruset 21:52, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Changes between the theatrical release and the DVD release

So far I've noticed two small changes between the theatrical release and the DVD release of this film:

  • When the "For The Birds" birds go by on the telephone line, in the DVD release they now make a squeaking noise. In the theatrical release, I don't recall a sound effect for them.
  • During the end credits, Sarge is shown putting four SUVs through boot camp. One of the SUVs has two lines. In the theatrical release, I remember it sounding like Arnold Schwartzenegger; on the DVD, it definitely does not sound like Arnold - it's more of a slacker kind of voice.

Can anyone verify these changes, and do you know of any others? - Brian Kendig 05:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

You're wrong on both counts. In the theatrical versions I attended, the birds did indeed make a squeaking noise. As for the SUV, you might be thinking about the Montage of press reports after Lightning McQueen goes missing, where a Yellow German-Sounding Hummer states "Lightning McQueen must be found, at all costs!". The green Hummer at Sarge's Bootcamp always sounded like a slacker. RMS Oceanic 08:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Validity of the 'Reference to Other Movies?'

Some of the "references" listed seem to be very common scenes that occur in many films. I think it's a bit of a leap to document them as nods to other films. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.88.212.44 (talkcontribs) .

I've removed the line that the shot of Mater seen flying across the moon is a reference to E.T. This is a common shot -- used for everything from Halloween witches to Santa and his sleigh (even Tim Burton shot the Batwing flying against the moon). If there is evidence to support that this is indeed a nod to E.T., please cite that information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.88.212.43 (talkcontribs) .

Steve McQueen

Is there any actualy evidence or source thats says that Lightning McQueen was named after Steve McQueen, right now the article says ...some believe that it is also a reference to famous actor and car buff Steve McQueen'. Who is "some", an message board , someone on Wikipedia? -- Coasttocoast 05:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I personally don't believe this. I believe his naming was 99% for Glenn McQueen. Any references to Steve were probably an afterthought. RMS Oceanic 08:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Tires, not antennae

I'm relatively certain that the cars in Cars generally use their tires as hands, not their antennae. I'm going to change this, but feel free to make a case that I am wrong (if you have one!). Hey, my warranty didn't run out after all! 16:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, they used BOTH. -- Jason Palpatine 21:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

NASCAR Rules

Removed the section about drivers losing their finishing position for wrecking the leader of a race in order to win it themselves. Has only happened once in NASCAR's top division when Ricky Rudd spun Davy Allison out at Sears Point on the last lap, with Rudd receiving a time penalty which meant Allison crossed the line first to win.

It is not a near certainty like the writer made it appear to be, and hasn't happened in 15 years.

Pizza Planet Truck

Someone claims to have found the Pizza Planet Truck during "Life is a Highway" on this message board. It's at a Dinoco gas station, the same on in Toy Story. Is that verifiable enough to make reference to in the main article here? RMS Oceanic 09:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I verify it as well, it's hella blurry but the shape is there, also you can clearly see the Pizza Planet truck behind the announcer cars and to the left of the "Elvis" RV before the start of the final race DCJoeDog 16:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Sarge

Anyone hear why they didn't use R. Lee Ermey for Sarge? It seemed to just beg for him.--BenWoodruff 15:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe that's the reason why they did not use him. -- Jason Palpatine 21:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Who is Kori?

Mazda MX-3, I think. Here's one: Mazda MX-3. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hondasaregood (talkcontribs).

This article is becoming very long

OK. How about, to trim off some of the fat, we delete the week-by-week box office performance list. Seems unecessary. -- Jason Palpatine 08:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC) (speak your mind | contributions)

What? No comments? Jason Palpatine 21:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if it should be deleted completely, but it could at least be trimmed down to 10 weeks. What I'd focus on trimming instead:
  • Story - I'm not sure quite how best to do it, but it seems like this should be edited down such that it's not just a play-by-play of the movie (details that are important when watching aren't necessarily important in an encyclopedia article about the film).
  • NASCAR differences - Yes, the movie is based directly on NASCAR, and the comparison is a valid one, but there's a lot of extra detail there that could be edited out.
  • Script references - More trivia that could probably be edited down.
  • Goofs - Unnecessary, probably. Leave stuff like that to fansites or IMDb.
Note that per Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Style guidelines, fan facts shouldn't be included at all (not that the rest of the article necessarily follows that page's guidelines either). This article is pretty much filled with them. I agree that they're fun to read through, but as the article size is a problem, we have to consider the bigger picture here.
-- Fru1tbat 18:35, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, ruined info

In the very beginning, as you can see, someone gorged the starting paragraph with some vulgar junk-- I would happily try and revert it to the original state but I can't remember what was there at first --Uzzo2 04:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the opening paragraph contains tons of misplaced info (that appears later in the article). No need to repeat the NASCAR puns or every voice talent in the movie. Work on that too while you're editing the top of the page, please. SpikeJones 20:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh Sorry, they must have already deleted it about time you got here --Uzzo2 05:05, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Speeding in the Pit

" *In the movie, Lightning McQueen appears to speed out of pit road to beat the pace car, and stay on the lead lap. In NASCAR, a driver would be penalized for doing that by being required to restart the race at the end of the longer of the two lines of cars that line up behind the pace car. During the final ten laps of the race, when the cars one or more laps down are not allowed to line up to the inside of the lead-lap cars, the penalty is to start at the end of the one line of cars.

  • McQueen did not, however, speed in the pits. He only accelerated once he crossed the pit exit line. Had he broken the speed limit within the pits, he would have had to serve a stop and go black flag on the very next lap under NASCAR rules. The movie then depicts McQueen just catching up to the pack as the green flag is waved. NASCAR dictates the drivers be lined up before the green flag is issued."

Did he speed off or not? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.12.157.49 (talk) 08:20, 11 December 2006


Goof?

Doc Hornets big crash is given as 1954, however, one of his piston cups can clearly be seen to be dated 1955. surely if he won the piston cup that year, his career would have been renewed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.12.110.220 (talk) 12:26, 11 December 2006

You mis-read it. His cups clearly state 1951, 1952 and 1953. He doesn't have a cup for 1955. RMS Oceanic 12:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Goddamn, now i feel like a n00b :P82.12.110.220 18:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

^^lol --Uzzo2 05:05, 15 December 2006 (UTC)