Talk:Carry On films

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[edit] Second Dumbest Decision

"In 2004 the magazine Total Film described the greenlighting of the movie (Carry On Columbus), and the decision to use alternative comedians, as the number 2 "dumbest decision in movie history"."

I presume this was some kind of survey, or "top ten list of Dumb decisions". Is there a link to the list on line somewhere? PaulHammond 13:38, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

This is a bit late, but the Total Film website no longer has any info on "the ten dumbest decisions". Doing further research online, it appears that it wasn't a survey but an editorial article by the magazine published in 2004. There's no indication what basis — if any — Total Film had for making the list, or including the "dumb decisions" they did. If the magazine is anything like Entertainment Weekly, there may have been no legitimate critical reasoning behind it, making it somewhat weak as a source for inclusion here. The only traces of the rest of the list exist only on Wikipedia and websites that use Wikipedia data (like Answers.com). Number nine seems to have disappeared entirely, but the rest of the list was apparently as follows:

• 1st: Sean Connery's costume in Zardoz
• 2nd: Greenlighting Carry On Columbus with alternative comics
• 3rd: The 1941 film adaptation of the Jack London novel, The Sea Wolf, which features a ship collision resulting in loss of life, is premiered on the ocean liner S.S. America
• 4th: On the set of Reds, Warren Beatty lectures Russian extras on the capitalist exploitation of labor, resulting in the extras striking for higher wages
• 5th: Harrison Ford turns down Traffic to appear in K-19: The Widowmaker
• 6th: Lucasfilm sells Pixar to Steve Jobs
• 7th: Greenlighting Fair Game, a $50 million film starring untried would-be actress Cindy Crawford
• 8th: The decision to make sequels to Police Academy
• 10th: Anne Heche announces her lesbianism shortly after being cast in the heterosexual romantic comedy, Six Days Seven Nights

I think anyone could come up with a similar list with different items that are "dumber" (Howard Hughes' The Conqueror spring to mind), so without a copy of the article for reference, I think the citation should be deleted...everywhere that it appears. Canonblack 16:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject

Is there a Carry On wikiproject? Is anyone interested in starting one? TheMadBaron 08:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

A very good idea. I would happily contribute to one. David L Rattigan 11:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carry On box

Methinks we should have a box template thingummy, such as many other series have on Wikipedia (one good example is the films of Blake Edwards). It would list, and link to, all the Carry On films, most of the actors, and some peripheral topics. It would be placed in this article, and in every article about a Carry On film.

Who knows how to build a box template thingummy? TheMadBaron 02:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I would just find a template you already like, and then copy and paste the same code. I'd also wait to hear from others before creating it, as I wonder if some would think it is a bit big for a template - not that I mind, but there's been controversy over other large templates. David L Rattigan 07:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sections are biased / POV

The timeline of films needs separating from commentary of how good they are. Calling one era "decline" and another "revival" is leading. I think the films needs to be put into a straight timeline, and then any commentary on their decline and fall given in a separate section, and any mention of "decline" or "revival" should be cited as with anything else on wikipedia, rather than being an uncited value judgement. Also, I think a Carry On template/sidebar would probably be in order, something oalong the lines of the one at Star Trek. Cheers - PocklingtonDan 21:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I believe it is useful and meaningful to group the films in this way. After Charles Hawtrey's last appearance in Abroad, and then the last ever Carry On film appearances of Sid James, Hattie Jacques and Barbara Windsor in Dick, it is pretty safe to say the film series was in decline. Also the films declined in popularity at this time. Prouction switched from two a year, to just one each year. England was a major failure. Emmanuelle tried to win back audiences by revamping the formula, foregrounding some new actors and adding much more sex. Then Emmanuelle was the last film - until many years later one more film was made. This pretty much sounds like a decline, and a revival to me. The article never actually makes a critical evaluation of the quality of the film itself, something that would be POV. Asa01 22:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi I agree that in terms of box office success, the Carry On films certainly did go into decline during the 1970s, but I feel that defining era's as 'decline' etc. is unjustified, as I (and I'm sure at least some others) would argue that the Carry On films of the 1970s (with the possible exception of Emmannuelle) were more witty than the earlier films. Thanks.

[edit] Somehow I don't think this is quite correct

The mainstays of the series were Kenneth Williams (30000000000000 films)—Wasabe3543 03:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Carry on series.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Carry on series.jpg

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BetacommandBot 20:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)