Talk:Carlsbad, California

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I updated the master planned community descriptions in 92009 today. Will try to update 92011 next. Cal Coast

[edit] POV

There seems to be an edit war going on right now. Short Verses is factually correct in his edits. Much of what 128.54.213.52 has posted is bogus and definitely POV. First of all" the city is divided into three sections" is false; the city has several neighborhoods/areas: downtown, Barrio Carlsbad, tanglewood, Calaveras, Ponto, Aviara, and La Costa among others. If one were to divide the city, it would be between La Costa and the rest of the city (only La Costa has the institutional history and its own identity separate of Carlsbad.) Also "Aviara is usually considered the wealthiest of the three" is false. While Aviara has many expensive homes, they are tract homes and the average Aviara home is far less expensive than a house along Skyline Dr. and especially the homes along Agua Hedionda lagoon, many of which go for multi-millions of dollars and whose owners are the peers of Fairbanks Ranch and Rancho Santa Fe (far wealthier than most Aviara residents.) These houses are in what 128.54.213.52 considers "Carlsbad." "... and are about on par with some nearby communities such as La Jolla and Rancho Santa Fe..." is not true either. Both La Jolla and Rancho Santa Fe are wealthier areas (especially Rancho Santa Fe) and have more expensive residences.

"Both Aviara and La Costa have no locally administered municipal government," implies that they are distinct political entities with relationships to Carlsbad that are on par with La Jolla's relationship to the city of San Diego. Aviara and La Costa are no different than the other nieghborhoods that I already mentioned.

"Likewise, both Aviara and La Costa maintain a distinct zip code (92009) separate from the City of Carlsbad" is false as well for two reasons. One, Aviara and La Costa are part of Carlsbad, therefore this statement is an impossibility. Two, there are other neighborhoods (such as Ponto) that share this ZIP code as well.

"(which, notably, contains a community named Aviara)" Why is this notable?

"The faux-gated community of Aviara is an exclusive resort community nestled in the hills of South Carlsbad, overlooking the Pacific Ocean and Batiquitos Lagoon." - POV

The rest of the Aviara article section reads like a real estate advertisement.

MrHudson 07:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks MrHudson. Actually, in my recent edits I was attempting to satisfy 128.54.213.52 while providing factual information. "(which, notably, contains a community named Aviara)" was one of my edits to attempt to do so. Also, 128.54.213.52 was raising the income levels by $30,000 or so (I can tell she didn't have a source because the last three digits of her numbers were identical to the census stats, the income numbers are correct now on the main page as far as I know) and so I needed to obtain a recent figure by SANDAG with a higher income value. I wanted the information on the page to be factual but an edit war will not be particularly helpful either.

Although he/she did provide some useful information like the location and characteristics of certain communities within Carlsbad, 128.54.213.52 worded the information in extremely biased language. I attempted to remove most of the POV, but the user is very persistant in reverting edits to do so. What do you suggest we do?

Short Verses 18:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Proper Title

Under "Attractions" The proper title is the "Gemological Institute of America."

• • Go ahead and make these kinds of edits. You don't need to notify people that you're doing so. Short Verses 16:56, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Also, it's not properly referred to as an "attraction," so I moved it up one section.205.143.123.88 21:04, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Most expensive city"

^{"It is the most expensive city in North County, San Diego."}[Introducion, 1st paragraph, last sentence as of 11/24/2007]
I'm not sure what this means. It's a bit vague. Does this imply that you have to be more well to do (on average) than in other cities in order to afford living there? Please clarify, because I can't interpret what is being said. Thanks.

I think it was true that at one time Carlsbad became the second richest city per capita in the US. This was because Oceanside and Vista turned down both the May Company Mall (Plaza Camino Real Shopping Mall) and Car Country Carlsbad from joining their communities, the "no growth" movement was strong at that time. The Mall opened in 1969 and Car Country in 1972. Both supplied a large tax base for Carlsbad. Car Country, organized by R.H. Brooking (Brooking Olds/Mercedes now Hoehn Motors), is now the largest tax source for Carlsbad. Eric. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericbrooking (talk • contribs) 18:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)