Talk:Carlos Hathcock
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[edit] Drug Smuggling?
I THINK it was in his book where I read it through and at the end it came up with a little 'after Vietnam' story and it was revealed that he was caught smuggling marijuana around 1983 (?) and went to prison for a few years for it. I could be confusing him with someone else but I thought it'd be worth mentioning in case it was real. Certainly worth adding to the article if it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.42.92 (talk) 20:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Just finished reading the book, and there is no mention of anything like this in the book. 71.227.160.250 (talk) 21:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Units of Measurement
In the legacy section of the article, there are an over-abundance of units. Yards, miles, meters, (and even a furlong!). It would be clearer and easier to grok if the units were of the same type. I don't know which it would be best to standardize on, but 2500 yards being bested by 2430 meters across two paragraphs takes some brain power to comprehend.
[edit] M25 Tactical Rifle Image
I've cut and pasted the wiki code for the m25.jpg image which is missing from the server. Can we find a good image to put this back and have it displayed? --Paul Laudanski 03:00, 1 August 2005 (UTC) poop
Check out http://www.free-definition.com/Carlos-Hathcock.html They have an image. Also google images has three, all about the same.
I heard he shot an enemy sniper through his scope and into his eye. It's said to be the inspiration for similar scenes seen in Robocop, Eraser and Saving Private Ryan. Can anyone tell me if this is true?
This is true, though it wasn't his famous long shot. He was in vietnam, and he shot an enemy sniper who was hunting him through the scope, after seeing the glint reflected in the sunlight. The story is recounted in his book, Marine Sniper.Swatjester 07:45, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- I read the book also. To add more cool details (best I remember them..), Hathcock and the enemy sniper were stalking each other over a long period. One day Hathcock notices a strange glint far off so he shoots it and takes off. He sneaks back later to see what it was and discovers the body, and realized what had happened. I seem to recall thinking the movie "Sniper" also took a lot from that book but don't remember precisely if it was this event or what.
- Just watched an episode of Mythbusters titled "Firearms Folklore", which tested the myth of Hathcock's scope-shot. Simply put, it was discovered that the shapes of lenses makes it pretty impossible to do that.. they did note that it could probably happen, but labeled the myth "Busted". No intention on putting it on the article, just it's worth knowing. --Uber-Reindeer 02:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- The Mythbusters story is already in the main article. Note that the program's "recreation" did not exactly recreate the conditions. — ERcheck (talk) 02:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- While the Mythbusters recreation might not be up to spec, so to speak, it DOES raise the question, is there any actual PROOF of Sgt Hathcocks famous shot? Or is it, indeed, just a myth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DannyBoy2k (talk • contribs) 21:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- The Mythbusters story is already in the main article. Note that the program's "recreation" did not exactly recreate the conditions. — ERcheck (talk) 02:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Just watched an episode of Mythbusters titled "Firearms Folklore", which tested the myth of Hathcock's scope-shot. Simply put, it was discovered that the shapes of lenses makes it pretty impossible to do that.. they did note that it could probably happen, but labeled the myth "Busted". No intention on putting it on the article, just it's worth knowing. --Uber-Reindeer 02:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wow
Mad respect to Gunny, but this article is shitty and needs some serious cleanup. There is all kinds of talk about his feelings and eventual resolution, but no citation. Surely, we can do better than that.
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Carlos N. Hatcock II.jpg
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BetacommandBot 01:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dubious statements
The stories about "One of Hathcock's most famous accomplishments was shooting an enemy sniper through his scope, hitting him in the eye and killing him" and "As the general was stretching in the morning, Carlos fired a single shot which struck him in the head and instantly killed him. He had to crawl back instead of run when soldiers started searching" needs dire references and are subject to dispute until then. WinterSpw (talk) 16:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Marine Sniper by Charles Henderson 152.2.62.5 (talk) 21:07, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Reference the biography of him previously cited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.235.217 (talk) 02:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- His autobiography (Marine Sniper) does indeed contain both claims. I went ahead and added the appropriate citations. Since he was alone during at least one of those events, and the only other credible source would be the report on the event that HE wrote and filed, we can only accept his word (and there is no reason not to) that the events happened as described. The citations are provided and besides skepticism there is no contradictory evidence, this should end any dispute, the tags should now be removed. F-451 (talk) 02:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nickname
Can we get the Vietnamese nickname right? "Lông Trắng" translates as White Feather, so that part is correct. I have no idea where the "du K'ich" comes from - the word for sniper is "bắn tỉa", and this Hathcock page doesn't mention it at all.
--Tphcm (talk) 12:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List of historically important U.S. Marines... Billy Sing and Simo Hayha were never U.S. Marines...
Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Hathcock
"See also United States Marine Corps Portal
* List of historically important U.S. Marines
o Jack Coughlin, a retired Marine sniper with over 60 confirmed kills whose service includes Iraq and Somalia
o M40 sniper rifle, the Marine Corps sniper rifle used by Hathcock
o Chuck Mawhinney holds the highest number of confirmed kills (103) for any USMC sniper in history
o Billy Sing, an Australian World War I sniper who had an unconfirmed 201 kills
o Simo Häyhä, a Finnish World War II sniper holds the world record of 505 confirmed kills
o Adelbert Waldron, who holds the record for the most confirmed kills in U.S. military history, with 109 kills in Vietnam"
Billy sing and Simo Hayha were never U.S. Marines... why are they under the toggle as U.S. Marines? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.103.133 (talk) 02:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
