Talk:Carlisle

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[edit] Picture

why does the main picture show Carlisle in relation to Scotland not the country it's actually in - England! We wouldn't show Paris in relation to Italy would we? Anon. 20:48 3/6/08

I have changed it to the old picture of Carlisle within Cumbria Penrithguy (talk) 19:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bias

This article has some bias.

Only some? Let's try harder, people! -- John Fader (talk · contribs) 02:26, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tabled

In rewriting the thing about the cursed stone, I deliberately avoided the word "tabled". While I agree that british articles should be written in british english, "tabled" means essentially the opposite of what you'd imagine in american english, and thus ran the risk of really confusing some poor yank reading the article. In britspeak, "tabled" means "proposed", but in yanktalk it means "postponed until another meeting". -- John Fader (talk · contribs) 02:26, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Curse

This really interests me and I'd like to hear more about it, especially since I actually am a Carlisle. RcSamurai

[edit] Flood picture

If you look in the history of this page you'll see I tried to put in a picture of the flood I took, but it didn't align quite right. I'd appreciate it if someone better than me could have a go. Or maybe you don't think there should be one? I do, as it is quite a big part of the city's recent history. Thanks. Microwave85 23:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capital of England?

Ive been lead to believe that Edward I held TWO parliaments there. One in 1300 and the other in 1307. Would that make Carlisle the English Capital city intead of London on those two dates?

To put it simply: no. It doesn't work like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.86.240.209 (talk) 09:00, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Latin Name

Google returns some web pages giving Luguvalium as the Roman name for Carlisle. Anyone have a source? --Gil Gamesh 22:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article needs expansion

This article needs significant expansion. The city is of great historical importance yet some small villages in Cumbria have longer and more detailed articles. I have split transport out into a new section.

[edit] Wikiproject Catholicism

Why is Carlisle included in the WikiProject Catholicism? The only reason I can think of is that it was once like many other English ciites the seat of a catholic diocese can anyone else give me a reason for its inclusion? Penrithguy 18:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 102 Miles

'The famous Scottish Indie Rock Outfit "102 Miles" take their name from the distance from Glasgow Central railway station to Carlisle.'

If they're so famous, why don't they have a Wikipedia page? Not that it's impossible that they're famous, but if they are somebody should get to it. But I've certainly never heard of them, so I'm doubtful — TheJames 11:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

They have some pages, for instance channel4 music... check out - http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=102+miles&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB228GB228 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.207.47.21 (talk) 17:53, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Castle and cathedral

The castle keep is well preserved but the rest of the fortress has been restored and rebuilt many times.


The west end of the cathedral was destroyed by the Scots 1645-52, not Cromwell.

The cathedral east window is a magnificent composition of flowing tracery 51 feet high. Whether it is larger than that at York Minster I'm not sure. The York east window is the largest expanse of mediaeval stained glass in the world.


As Paul Nixon appears in the residents section, there seems little point in having a special cricket section just for him.


Sir Walter Scott was married in the cathedral december 1797.


Bandalore 17:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Request for pronunciation information

Can a bona fide local provide a pronunciation for the town name? I live in a US Carlisle with the stress on the second syllable and I'm wondering if the real Carlisle is pronounced the same way.

In my experience, its pronounced car-LILE in Scotland and CAR-lile in England. Famousdog (talk) 13:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin Carlyon

Kevin Carlyon is not, as the article claims, the "high priest" of British white witches. He is a rather eccentric attention-seeker who has for years been trying to make himself a thorn in the side of the British Wiccan community. He models his "High Priest of the Witches" claim on the title "King of the Witches" that many gave to the late Alex Sanders, who Carlyon interviewed a couple of days before his death (the interviews are distressing to listen to, as Kevin eagerly asks for more stories, ignoring the requests of the ill Sanders for a glass of water!). He is seen by the Wiccan community as ridiculous, exploitative and unethical.

Check out his site http://www.kevincarlyon.co.uk/. He's clearly trying to rub the Wiccan and Pagan community up the wrong way, adopting the title "The Living God of All Witches" "just to add to the controversy between other witches".

Cheers all, just a heads up. Fuzzypeg★ 00:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, so you insist on keeping him and his opinion. Well, I'm just registering with you that this claim of his is found highly insulting and defamatory by other British witches. Fuzzypeg★ 22:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

A press release by Scottish witches on the subject can be found here. Fuzzypeg★ 01:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
(sigh) That's is all well and good, but this is an article about Carlisle, not a soapbox for your witchy problems with Kevin Carlyon. The story is of interest to those interested in Carlisle and most people won't be interested in the internal politics of white-witchery in the UK. My suggestion is, make a page for Kevin and put your criticisms there, and anybody interested can follow the link. Famousdog (talk) 13:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
(sigh) The article started out by repeating false claims, which are insulting to certain people. You may not be one of those insulted, but that's no reason to be dismissive. I've made a minor alteration to the wording which I think finally makes it satisfactory. I still don't understand why Mr. Carlyon's opinion is notable, but then, I don't keep tabs on British tabloid media, living in New Zealand (and I've never even been to Carlisle), so I'll trust your judgement on that. Cheers. Fuzzypeg★ 22:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Districts/suburbs of Carlisle

Do we really need this section listing the electoral wards of Carlisle and what type of housing you find there? Frankly, it's a bit... how can I put this... boring. Famousdog (talk) 13:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I apologise for being boring but there are similar sections on other articles about towns and cities Penrithguy (talk) 16:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)