Talk:Carefree (chant)

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[edit] Melody

Any sources as to the melody's origins? The Gnome (talk) 12:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Parody"

A user is trying to insert a "parody" section, which contains "alternative" lyrics with (explicit) content, obviously sung by opponents in "response" to the Carefree song. This is a practice which, if extended to similar entries, would clutter wikipedia with "responses" and "retorts", posted by competing groups of soccer fans. Opinions are invited. -The Gnome (talk) 11:03, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Clearly any discussion of a topic related to football teams quickly leads to passionate argument that is unrelated to the matter that started it. The usual norms of verifiability surely apply. If there is a reliable source for the alternate lyrics then they should probably be included. I don't believe content is "screened" based on it having explicit content, i.e. this is OK in Wikipedia as long as it is not gratuitous (can't find a reference for that). Rich257 (talk) 11:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

"Explicitness" is irrelevant. (Wikipedia is ...explicit about that!) The point is that there is simply no end to "alternate" lyrics of well-known, popular songs. Therefore, aside from verifiability, the criterion of notability should be applied. Otherwise, every entry risks of being inundated with pseudo-parodies. The parody of Al Yankovic, for example, merits a separate and thorough inclusion in Wikipedia, because it is often equally or more famous than the original. But this is clearly not the case with parodies of ..football songs. -The Gnome (talk) 12:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)