Talk:Cardiopulmonary arrest

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[edit] Redundant Info

[edit] Cardiopulmonary vs cardiac arrest

The first 3 paragraphs explain 'Cardiopulmonary arrest' but the rest of the article seems related to 'Cardiac Arrest' in general. Aren't we duplicating effort here? --KarenJo90 00:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ethical Issues

Most of this section was moved from the main article as I believe it belongs in the DNR & CPR articles:

Cardiopulmonary resuscitation and advanced cardiac life support are not always in a person's best interest. This is particularly true in the case of terminal illnesses when resuscitation will not alter the outcome of the disease. Properly performed CPR often fractures the rib cage, especially in older patients or those suffering from osteoporosis. Defibrillation, especially repeated several times as called for by ACLS protocols, may also cause electrical burns. Internal cardiac massage, an ACLS procedure performed by emergency medicine physicians requires splitting open the rib cage, which is painful during the weeks of recovery. While such treatment is worthwhile when it saves a life, it is undignified and simply adds to the suffering of a victim with a terminal illness who wishes to die peacefully.

People with views on the treatment they wish to receive in the event of a cardiac arrest should discuss these views with both their doctor and with their family.

It is also important that these views are written down somewhere in the medical record. In the event of cardiac arrest, health professionals need to act quickly on the information that is available to them. As cardiac arrest often happens out of regular hours, the resuscitation team rarely includes anybody who actually knows the patient.

A patient may ask their doctor to record a do not resuscitate (DNR) order in the medical record. Alternatively, in many jurisdictions, a person may formally state their wishes in an "advance directive" or "advance health directive".

--KarenJo90 00:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cardiac arrest vs. Cardiopulmonary arrest - comments please

Hi - I had no idea this page existed, I just happened upon it randomly! We already have an extensive article at Cardiac arrest. Whilst I accept the point that the literal meaning of cardiac arrest refers to cessation of circulation only and cardiopulmonary refers to circulation and breathing, I think that having a separate article for them is overly pedantic, as cardiac arrest cannot in practice exist in isolation. The Cardiac arrest page is far more developed than this one - what do people think about a merge? I've added tags so that other users of both articles are aware and can make comments --John24601 21:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC) Proposal - Cardiopulmonary arrest is redirected to Cardiac arrest. Any useful content from Cardiopulmonary arrest can be transferred prior to merge. --John24601 21:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Support - These are clearly on the same subject, and should be merged as suggested. Owain.davies 21:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Support - Cryobiologist 05:47, 31 May 2007 (UTC)