Talk:Cap'n Jazz

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[edit] Band Names

Worth noting, in my opinion at least, that the bands "We are scientists!" and "Scary kids scaring kids" have taken their names directly from cap'n jazz song titles.

According to the We are scientists wiki they weren't named after the caP'n Jazz song...something about a telephone conversation or something. I also think the first sentence needs to be reworded. It says some crap about how "Cap'n Jazz was a Chicago band that was not well-known". Heck maybe I'll do it. NZHC 08:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discography

I removed "We Are Scientists" from the discography as it is the same record as "Sometime if you stand further away..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.29.48.181 (talk) 21:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

I'm proposing the merge of Owls (band) here, since that article is mostly talking about other projects the various members have been in and (seems to) lack any notability beyond an association with Cap'n Jazz. Zytsef (talk) 04:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

i think this is a bad idea. owls and cap'n jazz are two different bands, and both are individually notable. 129.67.38.161 (talk) 12:46, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

The point being that the Owls article has no claim of notability beyond an association with Cap'n Jazz. If Owls is otherwise notable, please include it in the article. Zytsef (talk) 18:43, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose. Different bands, different lineups. The fact that Mike Kinsella was in the band make it notable enough to pass muster, among other things.--Hraefen ^Talk 23:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

"The band was formed by the original lineup of seminal experimental indie rock band Cap'n Jazz soon after its second breakup" From the Owls article. It seems like somebody's asserting that they had the same lineup at one point. I assume you are refering to criteria 6 of the music notability guidelines when you say it's notable enough to pass muster: "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such." Emphasis mine. The point of the merge proposal is to either get the Owls article up to snuff or its content included someplace more appropriate. Zytsef (talk) 00:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

• • I think the most appropriate placd to include info about Owls is at this page right here. If Cap'n Jazz was the same thing as Owls, why wouldn't the band have just continued to call itself Cap'n Jazz. They released an album on Jade Tree under the name Owls and to my knowledge, they didn't consider it to be "just a side project," but their active band at the time.--Hraefen ^Talk 03:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Also, Cap'n Jazz guitarist Davey von Bohlen was not initially involved in Owls. This fact was probably a large part of the reason to give the project a new title and not to think of it as simply a continuation of Cap'n Jazz.--Hraefen ^Talk 03:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

The point is that the Owls article is pretty dismal as it stands right now and probably wouldn't pass AfD. It needs attention badly, or should be merged someplace appropriate. Zytsef (talk) 00:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

• Moving it to the Cap'n Jazz page will do nothing to improve the quality of the info here. If someone does nominate it for deletion (after 29 months), worry about it then. If you just want to improve the article, it's just as easy to improve the article right here.--Hraefen ^Talk 02:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose - Cap'n Jazz is not Owls and each deserves its own article. If the Owls article needs improvement, fine, but that has nothing to do with the Cap'n Jazz article. ColmDawson (talk) 19:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)