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[edit] God...

Cao Pi was NOT the eldest son of Cao Cao. That would be Cao Ang who was killed but that doesn't magically make Cao Pi the eldest of his sons.

And, your point? The article doesn't say that he is. Please read more carefully. --Nlu (talk) 16:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Concubine non-redundancy

Among his concubines, "Consort Liu, daughter of Emperor Xian of Han" seems to be listed twice, but indeed those are (according to the Xian article) different daughters, Liu being the family name. I just included a comment in the article to make this clearer. Is there a way to distinguish between them? Huon 12:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no, since no name or title was given for them. --Nlu (talk) 06:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Funny name

Wow, it would suck to be named 'Cow Pee'.

I think his name is pronounced like "Chow Pay" --IronMaidenRocks 21:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
"Tsao Pei", and this isn't a forum for idle chit-chat so take it to MSN, please. Gamer Junkie 05:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
How exactly do you pronounce "Tsao Pei"? Sorry, I'm an English speaker, not a Simp Pinyin speaker. I was trying to make it easier to understand. Of course I've seen it spelled Tsao Pei, but nobody knows how you pronounce that. Ta Zow Pee Yee? How is this idle chit-chat? There's no pronounciation marks on the name, so how is anyone going to know how to pronounce it? To an English Speaker, the only possible pronounciations are "Cow Pee" or "Cow Pie". --IronMaidenRocks 06:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
It's either "Sow Pee" or "Sow Pay". I'm also a native English speaker, although I don't know you came to something like "Ta Zow Pee Yee" from "Tsao Pei". And yes, talking about how sucky it is to have a name that sounds funny in a Western tongue is classified as idle chat, not productive discussion regarding the improvement of the article, although I was speaking more to the anonymous editor who posted above you. Gamer Junkie 07:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
It sounds more like "Chow Pee", without the "h" sound. _dk 08:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
So is it more like "Shao" or something like that. Because "Chow" whithout the "h" sound is "Cao" :) Gamer Junkie 08:49, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
It's hard to convey in text, the article on pinyin might help :) _dk 09:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wei Kingdom => Wei Dynasty

I believe there to be a little problem. Cao Cao established the Kingdom of Wei, as deemed by his self given title 'King of Wei'. Cao Pi was responsible for establishing the Cao Wei Dynasty, by forcing Xian to abdicate. It's a small point, but it is important, as it was Cao Cao's use of making Xian the "puppet" emperor that allowed him to prominently hold power in the North. So I'm going to fix that.

Cao Wei was not a dynasty, it was a kingdom, as were Sun Wu and Shu Han. Cao Pi claimed to have established the Cao Dynasty, but this was not officially recognised. Liu Bei, a blood descendant of the "ruling" Han Dynasty contested this, as did Sun Quan of Sun Wu. The Jin Dynasty succeeded the Han Dynasty after Cao Wei was usurped by the Sima Family and incorporated Sun Wu and Shu Han into its influence. You can see for yourself. The Cao Wei and Jin Dynasty links above have charts listing the ruling dynasties of each era. Eastern Han is succeeded by Western Jin, not the Cao Dynasty. Gamer Junkie 23:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proof

How do even know that these people even existed? The names make these people seem made up.--Ridley76 17:35, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You've got to be joking. Why don't you try finding a book relating to Chinese history at your local library. Gamer Junkie 17:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Konami

Trimming of the 'modern reference section to tone down the Konami propaganda. The presence of the long winded part on the video game character here is misleading, besides it already has its own page.Xuxunette 09:06, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

You mean Koei. _dk 11:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I added that, and it's as big as it is to prevent anons from inevitabely adding additional comments with bad links, poor spelling and game guide material. And I don't work for Koei, and propaganda is supposed to influence and manipulate people. Hardly what I'd call listing a popular modern reference. Gamer Junkie 12:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)