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This is an internal project of Wikipedia:Canadian wikipedians' notice board to review which Canadian cities do or don't qualify for page moves according to the current naming conventions as spelled out at Wikipedia:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board/Style guide. All cities currently listed here meet the criterion that the plain title "City" exists on Wikipedia as a redirect to a title in the format "City, Province".

Note that inclusion in this list does not necessarily mean that an article will definitely be moved, as there are some cases where "City" should more appropriately be changed to a disambiguation page. However, as a plain title should always be either an article or a dab page rather than a redirect to a disambiguated title, all cities listed here should be reviewed to determine the most appropriate situation in that particular case.

[edit] Already undisambiguated

This section is provided for reference's sake — the cities listed here are not part of the current discussion.

The following places are currently at undisambiguated titles: Calgary, Charlottetown, Chatham-Kent, Edmonton, Estevan, Flin Flon, Fort McMurray, Fredericton, Gatineau, Iqaluit, Kamloops, Kelowna, Lethbridge, Lloydminster, Medicine Hat, Mississauga, Moncton, Montreal, Moose Jaw, Ottawa, Penticton, Quebec City, Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville, Saskatoon, Toronto, Trois-Rivières, Tuktoyaktuk, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Yellowknife.

In two special cases, Greater Sudbury and Halifax Regional Municipality, the title is undisambiguated but is located at the legal name of the municipality rather than the common one. In both cases, the common name gives rise to a disambiguation conflict with a place in the United Kingdom, but the extended name is unique. If you want the link to say just Sudbury or Halifax rather than the full legal names of the municipalities, you must use pipetext rather than simply linking to Sudbury or Halifax. Note, however, that Sudbury, Ontario is also acceptable, but Halifax, Nova Scotia is another dab page and should thus not be used.

[edit] Redirects

This is a list of all Canadian cities for which the undisambiguated title "City" exists as a redirect to "City, Province". Per Canadian city naming conventions, all such cities should be reviewed and discussed with one of the following two options in mind:

  1. article to be moved to "City",
  2. "City" becomes a disambiguation page instead.

At present, this list only contains cities, not any other type of geographical division. It also does not include those cities for which "City" is currently an empty title.

Do not remove titles from this list right away. If and when a discussion has taken place, move the city to the above section if the discussion resulted in a move. If a discussion did not result in a move, or if the city is deemed not suitable for a page move in advance of any discussion taking place, strike it with <s> </s> tags.

[edit] British Columbia

  • Burnaby
  • Coquitlam - converted to dab page by User:Qyd, although I'm not wholly convinced that it was necessary as it falls heavily into the secondary-usage trap.
To you, maybe; in BC life Coquitlam and Port Coquitlam are flip sides of the same coin, like North Vancouver District or North Vancouver City or the respective Township & City of Langley. I think Bearcat's edit April 18 2008 was a mistake and hasty and the "secondary usage" thing is debatable, as the standalone "Coquitlam" use doesn't necessarily mean the City of Coquitlam at all; "the Coquitlam" is explicitly the river, "the Coquitlams" the First Nation, or an uncommon reference to the two cities (usually the Tri=Cities are referred to, including Moody). WAs there even a move discussion before you wiped the dab page???Skookum1 (talk) 15:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Per WP:DAB, disambiguation pages are to be used only to distinguish items that could potentially be placed at the exact title of the dab page. They are not search indices for any and all titles that happen to have a word in their names. Coquitlam, for example, does not become a dab page on the basis of Coquitlam River or Port Coquitlam or Coquitlam City Hall or a Coquitlam-based sports team, because none of those things could ever be given just "Coquitlam" as their page title. A disambiguation page is to exist only when more than one article could potentially have the exact title "Coquitlam" — if only one article could ever actually have a claim on that title, then that article gets that title no matter how many other things happen to have the word Coquitlam in their names. And no, there doesn't have to be a move discussion to undo an edit that explicitly violates Wikipedia policy. Bearcat (talk) 17:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alberta

There are no other Fort Saskatchewan's in the world.
No problem, but Grand Prairie should redirect to Grand Prairie, Texas instead of a dab page (we can't have one as a dab and the other as a redirect, but you can also argue that because of the odd spelling it should be a dab page).
Both articles already have dablines at the top pointing to each other, so a dab page to distinguish between the two is probably just overkill. Bearcat 23:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Should be fine, but maybe a you may be looking for Spruce Grove Township, Minnesota at the top.
Should be fine since all the dab page references are to lesser districts (municipality, electoral) in the same area.

[edit] Saskatchewan

Battleford should really get moved too. The area is popularly known as The Battlefords, so we're covered there.
No disagreement from me...but as Battleford has town status rather than city status, it wasn't listed here because I chose to start with cities only. Bearcat 23:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Pretty unique name, and wikipedia doesn't need an article on swift currents.
Also pretty unique name.
Also a unique name.

[edit] Manitoba

[edit] Ontario

Search doesn't hit other communities, but does register hits as a first name (Thorold Gosset, Thorold Merrett, Thorold Coade) or surname (Anthony Wilson Thorold), as well as the name of a breed of deer. Are those dab page material?
  • Timmins - I created a DAB page and turned the old one into a redirect page. The most notable usage of Timmins is the city (I think) --Kelapstick 20:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quebec

[edit] New Brunswick

I have added the DAB link to Edmonston, Maryland (town of ~1000), to the top, not sure if there are any others--Kelapstick 20:56, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newfoundland and Labrador

[edit] Territories

[edit] Converted to dab page

The following cities have been reviewed and converted to valid dab pages instead of redirects.