User talk:Canticle

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Hello, Canticle, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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[edit] Composer stubs

Hi, I've tried to take care of Bronius Kutavicius. Very short articles like that easily run the risk of getting deleted. When you create more, it'll be a good idea if you add a bit more information, especially about how and why these people are notable, and some references if possible. Thanks! Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] possible deletion of Leila J. Rupp article

An article that you created, Leila J. Rupp, has been nominated for deletion. Please visit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leila J.Rupp if you wish to comment on this. Also, please add references to newspaper or magazine articles about Leila J. Rupp which might help to prove that she is notable. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 00:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Canticle. Thanks for writing me about my AfD vote on Rupp's article. New articles sometimes get dragged into deletion discussion without giving writers enough time to develop the subject. From just a standard search of scholarly writings I can see that you should have no problem writing more about Rupp. You may want to take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (academics), for some ideas on how you can include statements of notability in the article. Additionally, cite as many sources as you can: maybe Rupp was interviewed for a magazine, newspaper...? Good luck. --Howrealisreal 14:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Howard Winant may not be a notable biography

A tag has been placed on Howard Winant, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable (see the guidelines for notability here). If you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

Please read the criteria for speedy deletion (specifically, articles #7) and our general biography criteria. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. -Will Pittenger 08:10, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Did you read the Notability link above? That probably provides a better desciption than what I can give. I added it only because I had never heard of that person and the article didn't do a very good job of asserting that. Perhaps as you expand the article, it will do better. Please consider wikifying it better as that will help you assert notability in the first section. Will (Talk - contribs) 20:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button Image:Wikisigbutton.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you!

When you posted on my talk page, you signed with only the date. Your user name was missing and so I had no idea who posted until I checked history. Will (Talk - contribs) 06:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] help me

How do I change the links so that the name listed as Walter Pahnke will also be linked to the more correct "Walter N. Pahnke"?

Thanks in advance, Canticle 05:31, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean. Are you trying to create a piped link, where different text shows than the title of the article? Or are you trying to create a disambiguation page? Alternately, are you trying to create a redirect? Please clarify your question, if none of those links help you. 05:54, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
I think what you're looking for is redirecting one page to the other. The best thing to do is figure out which page is more widely known/searched, and make the other one redirect to it. I'd be happy to help, once you figure that out. —Keakealani 06:39, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adoption

Hi there; I see that you are a registerd nurse who is looking to be adopted. I am an experienced user and a Medical doctor looking for a user to adopt, and am happy, if you wish, to adopt you. Let me know on my talk page and I will amend the userboxes accordingly. There are only two problems; I am in the UK, which means that with your being in California there may be a delay (not more than twelve hours) in answering your questions; secondly, the greatest Science fiction film ever made is "Silent Running". If you have not seen it, get it and watch it. Do let me know.--Anthony.bradbury 21:08, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Excellent, I will adjust the templates forthwith. You failed to sign your message to me; I know that you typed your name, but that does not help me to locate your User Page. Please always sign a talk message (but never an article) with four tildes, or click on the icon above, the one between the red-crossed-out W and the horizontal bar.

I look forward to helping you; leave a message on my talk-page at any time and I will get back to you as soon as possible; certainly within 24 hours.--Anthony.bradbury 22:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. You do not seem to have come up with any questions. Are you saving them all up? (or are you on vacation?)--Anthony.bradbury 23:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] France Winddance Twine

This article has been nominated for deletion (or has already been deleted). Don't be discouraged! Many of us have had articles deleted, especially early in our wikicareers. Deletion is not a reflection on your editing but simply the application of our standard rules, particularly WP:NOTABILITY (and WP:BIO for persons, WP:WEB for websites, WP:CORP for companies, WP:MUSIC for bands, and so forth.) Looking forward to your future contributions, Herostratus 07:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

In particular, this person fails the WP:PROF test. Herostratus 07:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted article

As your aricle has been deleted, I lack the tools to review it. It was deleted on the basis that the subject of the article was a non-notable private citizen who failed the WP:PROF criterion. The admin who deleted it would, I am sure, be happy to explain why if approached in a friendly fashion.--Anthony.bradbury 23:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

In fact I see that you have already contacted him, so now we wait to see what response you get.--Anthony.bradbury 23:56, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re France Winddance Twine

Per your request, I have restored this article for the time being. However, I feel it's very likely that this person is not notable enough for an article. Typical professors are not automatically notable, any more than are typical attorneys, doctors, etc. Her accomplishments seem run-of-the-mill for a professor; yes she has published works, but that is expected of a professor. If we included all professors we would have scores of thousands of additional articles. Specifically, see WP:PROF for notability standards for professors.

I'll give you a week to make any changes you want to the article, then I will send it to WP:AFD for the community to discuss. Unless there is more to this person than currently appears, the community is quite likely to recommend deletion of the article, although that is not certain. Herostratus 03:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

To be fair, I'm only quick if I'm on-line, and this answer has taken longer. I am glad that you have week to work on the article. To ensure its survival, you will need to show how your subject is more notable than other sociology professors and ethnographers. Try and find, and record, something that she does/has done that nobody else does/has done. Just being at Santa Barbara, itself a notable institution, won't be enough. Has she any publications used as basic texts? Any international lecture tours? Any published original theories? Any of these would probably do it for you. Good luck. If the article does go to AfD and deletes, please do not be downhearted. There are plenty more articles waiting to be written.--Anthony.bradbury 17:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
You can never be quite sure how editors will apply WP:PROF. Certainly, having seen the modified article, I would not mark it for deletion. If no-one does, great. If they do, follow the instructions on the deletion template. I will watch.--Anthony.bradbury 15:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Incidentally, and purely as a matter of personal interest, her name is unusual, or would be thought so on this side of the pond. Is her origin Native American?--Anthony.bradbury 01:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invite to Nursing wikiproject

Hello, this is an invitation to join WikiProject Nursing.


You may be interested in joining WikiProject Nursing. This WikiProject aims to improve the standard of all aritcles relating to Nursing, which includes articles which directly relate to the Nursing profession, including its history, the duties and activities of nurses, their role in the general field of medicine, and all related articles.

You can help by:

  • Creating new articles.
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For more information, see the project page, and if you have any questions you can leave them at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Nursing and someone will get back to you.

— Rod talk 19:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I did not send the message re nursing articles, but the timing is perfect. Joining a project and actively taking part in it is well thought of in wikipedia.--Anthony.bradbury 22:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Editors

I think, to be fair, that new editors are actually, on balance, given an easier time than are established contributors. There is no procedure for supervising or inspecting new contributors except, of course, for the WP:ADOPT process, which we hope shows a helpful, not antagonistic , face.

Many of the more experienced among us are, however, new-page patrollers, and the software can be set so as to pull out the names of all new articles for inspection. If an editor feels that an article fails to satisfy a wikipedia guideline he will flag it for consideration for deletion, and an admin will be alerted to the flag and will make a delete/keep decision (a few are sumitted to deletion discussion by the community; see WP:AfD). So yes, decisions do have a degree of subjectivity, although hopefully we all face more or less the same way. But a borderline notable article will be deleted by some and not by others, although as you have found there is room for appeal.

I think it would be fair to say that in my personal view your article as initially submitted probably did fail WP:PROF, though not everyone would have said so. I now think it should be secure.--Anthony.bradbury 16:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Twine article

Hi there; I spoke to the editor who deleted the article first time round. You might look to look on my talk page to see his response. Well done.--Anthony.bradbury 21:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh dear. I have reverted the article to your last version, but neither of us want or need to get into an edit war. The editor who deleted these chunks is, incidentally not an admin. I have left a message with User:Herostratus, who, you will recall, initially deleted the article but was very impressed with it in its final form. He is an admin, and I have asked him to arbitrate. I am really sorry that this is causing you so much grief.--Anthony.bradbury 18:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Should be OK now, I think.--Anthony.bradbury 11:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


A tag has been placed on National Association for Ethnic Studies, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Steve (Slf67) talk 09:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Twine

Apologies, I was overly ruthless in my cut. The article does read like a resume though. Is there anyway you could look to summarise each of those academic sections. We don't need a list of every article, and every speaking engagement and every position held. What are the major themes and what activities really exemplify those themes? Let me know if you need any more help. --Steve (Slf67) talk 22:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philanthropic Organizations

There is already a category Philanthropic organisations. Note the lower case o. Yours was a duplicate and will be deleted. --Steve (Slf67) talk 09:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. No, when a cat gets deleted the articles are no longer grouped or moved. I'm moving the articles now though. Don't worry though, naming conventions take a while to get used to. --Steve (Slf67) talk 09:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Andrew Mellon Foundation

There was already a Andrew W. Mellon Foundation article so I have redirected your article there. The history of your article is retained, so you can see any prior version and ensure that your content is edited into the existing article. --Steve (Slf67) talk 03:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Academic organizations

The category you wrote, Category:Academic organizations, is uncategorized. Please help improve it by adding it to one or more categories, so it may be associated with related categories.Eli Falk 11:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem

My wife is currently in hospital with liver and kidney failure, and is likely not to survive. I may therefore be slightly delayed in answering any questions you may have. --Anthony.bradbury 00:11, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

My sincere thanks for your sympathy.--Anthony.bradbury 23:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Duncan B. Blewett

The article in question is open to recreation, so feel free to recreate it and provide an assertion of notability WP:BIO as well as the sources to back it up. --Coredesat 10:02, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ABS

The text is here, jimfbleak 13:01, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

incidentally, the article doesn't specify a country, although I assume for that reason that it's probably the US. jimfbleak 13:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal

Hi; you are aware of my personal problems. My wife died a little under two weeks ago, qand on Saturday coming I am going to stay with my son in Indonesia for a couple of weeks. I regret that I have been of no help to you for the last 2-3 weeks. I will be back first weekend in March; in the meantime, User:Lethaniol, who runs the adoption programme will, I am sure, answer any questions you may have. As will, if you mention my name, either User:Melchoir (watch the spelling) or User:Gwernol.--Anthony.bradbury 20:55, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

My friend; May I say how deeply touched I am by your kind words. If I have helped on your way here, I can only say how totally delighted I am to have been able to do so. I wish you the best of luck with your current projects; I will be on-line tomorrow, and after that will be wholly available to give any further help you need from March 5th.--Anthony.bradbury 22:06, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ongoing adoption

Hi there; do you still need to be an adoptee, or are you now happy to swim alone in the broad waters of wikipedia?--Anthony.bradbury 00:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I will be delighted to be on-call for you for any questions, queries or problems that might in the future arise. When/if you decide in the future to attempt admin status (as I shall be doing in the near future) make sure that I am aware of it. Hapy wikying--Anthony.bradbury 11:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] edit summary

I agree to the edit counter opt-in terms

[edit] RfA

Thank you for your very kind words on my RfA, which seems likely to succeed. I will look out for yours later in the year.--Anthony.bradbury 17:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

I thank you most sincerely for your support, and your kind comments, in my recent successful RfA. I look forward to interacting with you in the future. --Anthony.bradbury 14:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prof Twine

Sometimes it seems that you just can't win, doesn't it. The editor who has removed many of the citations from the article perhaps is not aware that you put them in at the request of another editor who felt that the article needed fleshing out. Let us take note, however, that there has been no suggestion made of deletion on this occasion.

You do not need admin abilities to revert editorial changes, and you can find out how to do this at WP:REVERT. Please be aware that multiple reversions, or edit-warring, is seen by the community at large as being a good reason for blocking an editor from editing within the encyclopedia. May I suggest that you essentially follow the implied suggestion made by User:Quanimal, and re-insert citations of major publications, i.e. her own books, while omitting for the moment details about papers published and chapters submitted, except perhaps those you feel are of fundamental importance. I am truly sorry not to be more helpful; it is a fundamental principle of wikipedia, which I stumbled over when I first joined, that no-one owns any article, even one they have created. I will watch the article.--Anthony.bradbury 09:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Canticle, we now have an agreement, from the Editor who has removed much of the data from the article, that the article should contain a short, fully referenced list of important publications. I will leave it up to you to decide which the importasnt ones are and to re-insert them. See correspondence on article's talk page.--Anthony.bradbury 11:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Allan, I would suggest that the choice of what is important must be up to you: I would have thought that we are looking for published books (not article or chapter contributions) and any major lecture tours she may have made, plus any teaching appointments she may have held at notable institutions. Tony--Anthony.bradbury 22:25, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that the article is really ok as is, but I would feel happier, and more able to be supportive, if you were to follow through on my recent suggestion. You have not been to the article recently.--Anthony.bradbury 15:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that it will sit easier with the community if you re-add, rather than reverting and editing. Personal communication tends to be seen as original research, but if there is no other source I would say put it in and see what happens.--Anthony.bradbury 21:31, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I see that another editor felt the urge to stir the article around a little; in wikipedia this happens quite a lot. Nevertheless, I think that you have a good article of which you may be justifiably proud.--Anthony.bradbury 21:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Carl Otto Nicolai 5 operas added to The opera corpus

HI. I see you have added these operas. Does that mean you are going to write articles about them? I'm a bit concerned because none of them have articles in Grove and there doesn't seem to be much information available. As you will know we try to list complete works in the composer biography page, but the opera corpus is for notable operas we intend to write articles on. The idea is that all the red links will turn blue. Best regards. -- Kleinzach 03:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm sure you'll be able to get information on the Glass and the Penderecki - no problem there, but I am concerned about the Nicolai. If you don't mind I'll take them out. If you are interested in opera, we'd be delighted if you like to join the Opera Project. That way you will have support, information and can take part in our collaborations. (By the way you can sign with four tildes!). All the best! -- Kleinzach 04:14, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birtwistle operas

Hi. Another message from the Opera Project, I'm afraid. I noticed that you updated the list of Birtwistle operas in The opera corpus. Two things: first, by changing The Mask of Orpheus to Mask of Orpheus (opera), you (accidentally, I'm sure) changed a blue link into a red non-link. I've checked in various reference sources, and the title definitely starts with a "The", so I undid your change. Second, I removed "(opera)", which you added unnecessarily to "The Second Mrs Kong". Obviously "Gawain", "The Last Supper" and "Punch and Judy" need a qualifier because there are already articles or redirects with those titles, but "The Mask of Orpheus" (where there was already an article about the opera) and "The Second Mrs Kong" don't because there aren't (or so I thought). While I was at it, I aligned the red links in the two Birtwistle articles and elsewhere so that they all pointed to the same place. I now see that you've created The Second Mrs. Kong (opera) (good!), but with the "wrong" title. Unless you have any objection, I'm going to move it to The Second Mrs Kong to which various links now point - click it and then the "what links here" link down at the bottom on the left. (Oh, and a google search reveals that there's no full stop/period after the Mrs.) I hope the above makes sense to you - let me know if not. Best. --GuillaumeTell 10:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Nursing.

Hey! I'm on a mission to get the Nursing WikiProject active again. If you're still actively editing nursing articles, or are still interested in this project, please let me know on my talk page. Josh 14:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't really have any tasks in mind at the moment, but you can help by tagging talk pages of nursing related articles with {{WPNURSE}} which expands to:
WikiProject Nursing This article is within the scope of WikiProject Nursing. Please visit the project page for details or ask questions at the project page..
Nursing Portal
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[edit] AfD nomination of Allan J. Cronin

Allan J. Cronin, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Allan J. Cronin satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allan J. Cronin and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Allan J. Cronin during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. fuzzy510 21:48, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contact

Hi there; no contact recently, and perhaps none needed, but I thought I would just check in. Since the embedding in wiki of the FWD article you look as if you have slightly lost interest. I hope not, because there are lots more things to write about, and I was looking forward to nominating you as admin once your edit count allowed it - which right now it does not. Best wishes. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 22:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

No, I had no specific comment in mind. Just making contact. All the best. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 19:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opera article categories and Opera Project banners

Hi. This is just a note to say that I have just been through the articles you created adding categories. This is important because without categories no-one will know thay exist! I've also added Opera Project banners so the articles will be found by the bot when we do work on the project as a whole. Best. -- Kleinzach 03:33, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, your articles are much appreciated. -- Kleinzach 04:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FA Review of Charles Ives

Charles Ives has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. MrPrada 08:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The opera corpus

Both the Sessions links you put up were bad, Could you possibly test them before posting? If you have any problems let me know and I'll help you. Thanks. -- Kleinzach 08:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. The whole Montezuma thing was a bit of a mess, anyway I have now put the Sessions at Montezuma (opera). I haven't put very much so perhaps you might have a look at it. In particular I'm not sure how accurate my role list is. I couldn't find a good source. Best. -- Kleinzach 09:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jonas Salk

Hi, because you made a recent edit to Jonas Salk, I wanted to inform you that I am planning on bringing the article to FAC. Are you interested? Leranedo (talk) 08:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jonas Salk

Change of plans. I'm going to take an interest in a different article. Leranedo (talk) 16:20, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iain Hamilton (composer)

Your material on Iain Hamilton is, near as I can tell (I've looked over those references myself in hopes of preparing a stub, spent awhile gathering material in my own temp page) almost entirely a copy, not even a paraphrase, of the Presser and MusicWeb material. I trust you are familiar with WP:COPYVIO ? (I was glad someone had prepared a page on Hamilton first, as usual - rather less glad it was done this way.) Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics for The opera corpus

Hi. I'm wondering if you can provide statistics for the edits you've made to The opera corpus over the past two weeks? I've been trying to keep track but I just haven't had time with so many changes. The last time I updated (at the foot of the article page) was on 2 December.

These are the important figures:

  • Number of operas: (was 1,892 works)
  • Number of composers: (was 504 composers)
  • Number of composers per 25-year period by birth date
  • Number of male composers: (was 481 men)
  • Number of female composers: (was 26 women)

If you find this difficult to do, then an alternative would be to just give me your personal totals for each (as above) since 2 December. Regards. -- Kleinzach (talk) 08:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robin Cox

Hi there, and season's greetings to you.

Your article is only "prodded", so you have until 26/12 to modify it, and I note that you have already added several reasonable references. It would help if the Robin Cox Ensemble was not a red link. If Mr Cox, and/or his ensemble, had undertaken a National Tour, or had a record release on a major label, or had received a significant write-up in a major musical periodical, or if the ensemble had as a member a performer who was him/herself recognised as being notable, that would, if mentioned in the article, ensure notability. A major tour of California might do it, perhaps. I am essentially paraphrasing WP:MUSIC, which gives more detail. Happy wikying. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 16:25, 22 December 2007 (UTC)