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[edit] Introduction
I adapted this directly from the US version. I think it would be very helpful to have under all Canadian MPs and Senators. Once in place, it would largely take care of itself. It looks like it will be a lot of work, so I hope people are willing to pitch in whatever help they can.
[edit] Progress
[edit] Completed & Working On
- All **-FedRep templates (i.e. AB-FedRep, BC-FedRep, etc.)
- MB MPs (14 of 14 complete)
- MB Senators (6 of 6 complete)
- NU MPs (1 of 1 complete)
- NU Senators (1 of 1 complete)
[edit] Incomplete
- AB MPs
- AB Senators
- BC MPs
- BC Senators
- NB MPs
- NB Senators
- NL MPs
- NL Senators
- NS MPs
- NS Senators
- NT MPs
- NT Senators
- ON MPs
- ON Senators
- PE MPs
- PE Senators
- QC MPs
- QC Senators
- SK MPs
- SK Senators
- YT MPs
- YT Senators
[edit] Party Abbreviations
I suggest we use the following party abbreviations:
I see no other political parties with a reasonable chance of winning seats. (There are still a handul of Senators sitting as Progressive Conservatives.) We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.--handisnak 08:31, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Listing Order
Also, when listing Senators and MPs, I propose that they be listed in alphabetical order according to family name. --handisnak 08:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Not calling Territories Provinces
In the future, after the grunt work is done, the territorial articles could be renamed appropriately. --handisnak 09:57, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Provincial Links
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Manitoba Caucus serving in the 39th Canadian Parliament. |
| Senators |
Sharon Carstairs (Lib), Maria Chaput (Lib), Janis Gudrun Johnson (Con), Mira Spivak (Ind), Terrance Richard Stratton (Con), Rod Zimmer (Lib) |
| Members of Parliament |
Rod Bruinooge (Con), James Bezan (Con), Bill Blaikie (NDP), Tina Keeper (Lib), Steven Fletcher (Con), Inky Mark (Con), Pat Martin (NDP), Anita Neville (Lib), Brian Pallister (Con), Raymond Simard (Lib), Joy Smith (Con), Vic Toews (Con), Merv Tweed (Con), Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) |
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Ontario Caucus serving in the 39th Canadian Parliament. |
| Senators |
Norman Atkins(PC), Anne Cools(Con), Consiglio Di Nino(Con), Art Eggleton(Lib), Trevor Eyton(Con), Jerry Grafstein(Lib), Mac Harb(Lib), Colin Kenny(Lib), Wilbert Keon(Con), Marjory LeBreton(Con), Frank Mahovlich(Lib), Michael Meighen(Con), Lorna Milne(Lib), Jim Munson(Lib), Lowell Murray(PC), Michael Pitfield(Ind), Marie-Paule Poulin(Lib), Vivienne Poy(Lib), Nancy Ruth(PC), Hugh Segal(Con), David Smith(Lib), Peter Stollery(Lib) |
| Members of Parliament |
Peter Adams(Lib), Dean Allison(Con), Charlie Angus(NDP), Jean Augustine(Lib), Navdeep Bains(Lib) , Sue Barnes(Lib), Colleen Beaumier(Lib), Mauril Bélanger(Lib), Carolyn Bennett(Lib), Maurizio Bevilacqua(Lib), Ray Bonin(Lib), Ken Boshcoff(Lib), Don Boudria(Lib), Ed Broadbent(NDP), Bonnie Brown(Lib), Gord Brown(Con), Sarmite Bulte(Lib), John Cannis(Lib), Gary Carr(Lib), Colin Carrie(Con), Aileen Carroll(Lib), Marlene Catterall(Lib), Brenda Chamberlain(Lib), Michael Chong(Con), David Christopherson(NDP), Joe Comartin(NDP), Joe Comuzzi(Lib), Roy Cullen(Lib), Paul DeVillers(Lib), Barry Devolin(Con), Ruby Dhalla(Lib), Ken Dryden(Lib), Diane Finley(Con), Joe Fontana(Lib), Cheryl Gallant(Con), Roger Gallaway(Lib), Marc Godbout(Lib), John Godfrey(Lib), Gary Goodyear(Con), Bill Graham(Lib), Albina Guarnieri(Lib), Helena Guergis(Con), Mark Holland(Lib), Tony Ianno(Lib), Susan Kadis(Lib), Jim Karygiannis(Lib), Wajid Khan(Lib), Daryl Kramp(Con), Walt Lastewka(Lib), Guy Lauzon(Con), Jack Layton(NDP), Derek Lee(Lib), Judi Longfield(Lib), Dave MacKenzie(Con), Paul Macklin(Lib), Gurbax Malhi(Lib), John Maloney(Lib), Diane Marleau(Lib), Tony Martin(NDP), Brian Masse(NDP), John McCallum(Lib), David McGuinty(Lib), John McKay(Lib), Dan McTeague(Lib), Larry Miller(Con), Peter Milliken(Lib), Maria Minna(Lib), Andrew Mitchell(Lib), Lynn Myers(Lib), Rob Nicholson(Con), Pat O'Brien(Ind), Gordon O'Connor(Con), Bev Oda(Con), Carolyn Parrish(Ind), Jim Peterson(Lib), Beth Phinney(Lib), Jerry Pickard(Lib), Pierre Poilievre(Con), Russ Powers(Lib), Joe Preston(Con), Yasmin Ratansi(Lib), Karen Redman(Lib), Scott Reid(Con), Anthony Rota(Lib), Gary Schellenberger(Con), Judy Sgro(Lib), Mario Silva(Lib), Lloyd St. Amand(Lib), Brent St. Denis(Lib), Paul Steckle(Lib), Belinda Stronach(Lib), Paul Szabo(Lib), Andrew Telegdi(Lib), Lui Temelkovski(Lib), David Tilson(Con), Alan Tonks(Lib), Paddy Torsney(Lib), Rose-Marie Ur(Lib), Tony Valeri(Lib), Roger Valley(Lib), Peter Van Loan(Con), Joe Volpe(Lib), Tom Wappel(Lib), Jeff Watson(Con), Bryon Wilfert(Lib), Borys Wrzesnewskyj(Lib) |
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New Brunswick Caucus serving in the 39th Canadian Parliament. |
| Senators |
John G. Bryden (Lib), Eymard Georges Corbin (Lib), Joseph A. Day (Lib), Noël A. Kinsella (Con), Viola Léger (Lib), Rose-Marie Losier-Cool (Lib), Pierrette Ringuette (Lib), Fernand Robichaud (Lib), Marilyn Trenholme Counsell (Lib), vacant |
| Members of Parliament |
Claudette Bradshaw (Lib), Jean-Claude D'Amours (Lib), Yvon Godin (NDP), Charles Hubbard (Lib), Dominic LeBlanc (Lib), Rob Moore (Con), Andy Savoy (Lib), Andy Scott (Lib), Greg Thompson (Con), Paul Zed (Lib) |
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Newfoundland and Labrador Caucus serving in the 39th Canadian Parliament. |
| Senators |
George Baker (Lib), Ethel M. Cochrane (Con), Joan Cook (Lib), George Furey (Lib), William H. Rompkey (Lib) |
| Members of Parliament |
Gerry Byrne (Lib), Norman E. Doyle (Con), Loyola Hearn (Con), Fabian Manning (Con), Bill Matthews (Lib), Todd Russell (Lib), Scott Simms (Lib) |
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Nova Scotia Caucus serving in the 39th Canadian Parliament. |
| Senators |
Gerald J. Comeau (Con), Jane Cordy (Lib), Jim Cowan (Lib), Terry Mercer (Lib), Wilfred Moore (Lib), Donald Oliver (Con), Gerard Phalen (Lib) |
| Members of Parliament |
Scott Brison (Lib), Bill Casey (Ind), Rodger Cuzner (Lib), Mark Eyking (Lib), Gerald Keddy (Con), Peter MacKay (Con), Alexa McDonough (NDP), Geoff Regan (Lib), Michael Savage (Lib), Peter Stoffer (NDP), Robert Thibault (Lib) |
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Québec Caucus serving in the 39th Canadian Parliament. |
| Senators |
W. David Angus(Con), Lise Bacon(Lib), Michel Biron(Lib), Andrée Champagne(Con), Roméo Dallaire(Lib), Dennis Dawson(Lib), Pierre De Bané(Lib), Marisa Ferretti Barth(Lib), Joan Fraser(Lib), Aurélien Gill(Lib), Céline Hervieux-Payette(Lib), Serge Joyal(Lib), Jean Lapointe(Lib), Raymond Lavigne(Lib), Shirley Maheu(Lib), Paul Massicotte(Lib), Pierre Claude Nolin(Con), Lucie Pépin(Lib), Madeleine Plamondon(Ind), Marcel Prud'homme(Ind), Jean-Claude Rivest(Ind), Charlie Watt(Lib) |
| Members of Parliament |
Guy André(BQ), Gérard Asselin(BQ), Claude Bachand(BQ), Eleni Bakopanos(Lib), André Bellavance(BQ), Stéphane Bergeron(BQ), Bernard Bigras(BQ), Raynald Blais(BQ), Alain Boire(BQ), Françoise Boivin(Lib), France Bonsant(BQ), Robert Bouchard(BQ), Marc Boulianne(BQ), Diane Bourgeois(BQ), Paule Brunelle(BQ), Serge Cardin(BQ), Robert Carrier(BQ), Roger Clavet(BQ), Bernard Cleary(BQ), Denis Coderre(Lib), Guy Côté(BQ), Irwin Cotler(Lib), Paul Crête(BQ), Nicole Demers(BQ), Johanne Deschamps(BQ), Odina Desrochers(BQ), Stéphane Dion(Lib), Claude Drouin(Lib), Gilles Duceppe(BQ), Meili Faille(BQ), Raymonde Folco(Lib), Liza Frulla(Lib), Christiane Gagnon(BQ), Marcel Gagnon(BQ), Sébastien Gagnon(BQ), Roger Gaudet(BQ), Michel Gauthier(BQ), Monique Guay(BQ), Michel Guimond(BQ), Marlene Jennings(Lib), Maka Kotto(BQ), Mario Laframboise(BQ), Francine Lalonde(BQ), Jean Lapierre(Lib), Réal Lapierre(BQ), Carole Lavallée(BQ), Marc Lemay(BQ), Yves Lessard(BQ), Yvon Lévesque(BQ), Yvan Loubier(BQ), Richard Marceau(BQ), Paul Martin(Lib), Réal Ménard(BQ), Serge Ménard(BQ), Massimo Pacetti(Lib), Pierre Paquette(BQ), Denis Paradis(Lib), Bernard Patry(Lib), Gilles-A. Perron(BQ), Pierre Pettigrew(Lib), Pauline Picard(BQ), Louis Plamondon(BQ), Denise Poirier-Rivard(BQ), Marcel Proulx(Lib), Lucienne Robillard(Lib), Pablo Rodriguez(Lib), Jean-Yves Roy(BQ), Jacques Saada(Lib), Benoît Sauvageau(BQ), Francis Scarpaleggia(Lib), Christian Simard(BQ), David Smith(Lib), Caroline St-Hilaire(BQ), Louise Thibault(BQ), Robert Vincent(BQ) |
[edit] Problems
These templates, especially the Quebec and Ontario ones are much too large. They also violate the new Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes that state templates should only be used for actual series, not simply for related groups. Related groups are much better served by a categories. - SimonP 03:24, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
- I have to agree with SimonP on this. The US model isn't readily adaptable to Canada, and some of the Canadian boxes are way too large for the articles. No American state has a congressional delegation anything like Ontario's number of MPs and senators; even California, with the largest congressional delegation, has just eight lines of House Reps (compare Ontario's 20 lines of MPs and Quebec's 15). But alternatively, the territories and PEI, fr'ex, are way too small to justify having their own categories. The "Parliamentary delegation" articles also can't be formatted anything like the American ones are. So we're going to need to come up with a very different way of handling this than the model being applied to US congresspeople. (Oh, and "delegation" isn't standard terminology in Canadian politics, either; it should really be "caucus".)
- One possibility: break the Ontario and Quebec templates down regionally (e.g. separate templates for Northern Ontario, Eastern Ontario, Central Ontario, Western Ontario and Toronto, etc.) Another: stick to categories, but group the territories as a single category. Another: do lists instead. Yet another: skip it and stick to the way they're organized now.
- Any other thoughts? Bearcat 04:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I didn't know this was a dead project, so I went ahead and added the AB box to all the AB MP's. Do I need to revert them all now? Kevlar67 14:17, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Linkage
For what its worth, I've finished the last of the flags and corrected linkage. --Jay(Talk) 21:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
As previously noted, there's been a huge inconsistency in the way these templates are used: most provinces' parliamentary delegations didn't use them at all, with the result that some people have wrongly assumed that only a couple of them even existed.
Questions:
- Should we use these at all? There was never any strong consensus whether to use them or not when they were originally created.
- As you can see above, I've redesigned some of them to the {{navbox}} format that's generally more consistent with current Wikipedia practice. If we use these, should we use the navbox format or the old style?
- Bearcat (talk) 18:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think we should use these. Instead, I'd prefer to see a template that's specific to each individual (perhaps in an infobox) that lists the riding, date of entry to office, and other relevant details about the parliamentarian or senator. This could include a link to a list of parliamentarians by province, too. (By the way, I'm aware of {{Infobox CanadianSenator}} and {{Infobox CanadianMP}}; I'll inspect them later.)
- Should consensus be to keep these templates, let's try to retain the "common look and feel" of the navbox format. Mindmatrix 02:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- FWIW, {{Infobox CanadianMP}} exists only as a redirect to {{Infobox Officeholder}}. I'll review the Senator box, though. Bearcat (talk) 09:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
