Talk:Canoe racing

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[edit] C for Canada or Canoe?

Does the classification C stand for Canoe or Canda? An anon changed the article to say it was Canada on 5 Jan. but another anon claimed on the helpdesk email list that it was actuall Canoe. Please resolve this potential inaccuracy. --maru (talk) contribs 05:49, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I haven't found an official expansion of the C designation anywhere. The C-1, C-2, and such events use what is termed in the US a "canoe" as opposed to a "kayak"; in most of the world the term "canoe" covers both of those. What Americans call a "canoe" is differentiated from a kayak by specifying that it is an "open canoe" or a "Canadian canoe". Hope that helps. -- Jonel | Speak 13:09, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the C in C-1, C-2 ect. does in fact stand for Canada and is often mistaken for canoe. (White Beard 21:55, 8 April 2006 (UTC))

But what about the Canadian C-4 versus the International C-4 ? It only really works if its Canadian Canoe 4, or International Canoe 4, not Canadian Canada (or Canadian) 4. And WC isn't war canadian (or canada), its war canoe 15.

I had a look at the ICF Flatwater Racing Competition Rules, and there the categories are defined as kayak and Canadian. So "K" for kayak and "C" for Canadian. See the Definitions page. --Stefan29 13:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

While searching that rule book, I counted 20.5 Canoes, and 1.5 Canadian (.5 = Canadian Canoe). Still, overwhelmingly called a Canoe. Once again, Canadian C-4 and ICF C-4 dont work if the C stands for canadian. Plus, Canadian 4 refers to a boat that is shorter than an ICF C2, and still has a width restriction.

Also see the Rules Defining the Boats70.71.136.63 17:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, not even the rule book is consistent. It's an imperfect world. Stefan29 12:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I have been around flat water kayak/canoe racing since the spring of 2001. My son has competed nationally and internationally. I have had the honor of becoming acquainted with some of the best athletes in the United States, even though in the U.S. it is a very small sport. To the point, we should not confuse the categories of competition (men's kayak, men's canoe, women's kayak) with the classes of boats such as K-1 and C-1. The C does in fact stank for canoe and it is recognized as such around the world. --PaddleMaster 01:23, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ausable River Marathon.

The Ausable River Marathon is 125 kilometres, not miles, as stated in the text.