Talk:Canceled Apollo missions
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This site is very good. Now you found better informations about apollo 21 than me. I am from germany and have found only stubs about apollo 21, but you better refered this site.
Many thanks to from Germany by Philipp Mevius, Eckernförde September 20, 2005
Numbers by Names!
The cancelled missions apollo 18 to 20 are needed for skylab, but they have not numbers. Apollo 21 would not named in the sixties. But the Apollo-Sujus-Test-Project is the 21st (twenty-first) start of the Apollo Commmand module in July 1975.
Many thanks from Germany by Philipp Mevius, Eckernförde september 26, 2005
- Not quite sure what you are saying but I'm guessing you're suggesting that the three manned Skylab flights were in fact Apollo 18-20 and ASTP was Apollo 21. This isn't correct. Skylab was a completely different program that just happened to use the same hardware as the Apollo lunar landing program. ASTP is sometimes called Apollo 18, though this is incorrect as during its flight, the callsign used just Apollo. Evil Monkey∴Hello 06:34, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Instead of Roosa i would prohiby Tom Stafford for the Command of the apollo 20 mission, because he was not allowed to land with apollo 10 in may 1969. It would be better you numbered the three skylab missions as apollo 18 through 20 and ASTP as apollo 21, then it is same hardware of the apollo/saturn programm. Maybe the NASA changed the titles of the apollo applications program into the apollo by numbers.
P. Mevius 12th May 2005
[edit] Canceled?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7mkHtuLOs Half way in theres a alien craft. I don't know..
Where they really canceled? They could be lying to us. I want to believe. This video does look real. Too real. Joerite 21:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
- The patch briefly shown at the front includes "Leonov". The blue datascreen that follows is from an in-flight Apollo 11 film. The text at the bottom is apparently talking to Vandenberg... it's only ten seconds in, and we've racked up three bits of silliness. I wish they could at least construct plausibly consistent hoaxes... Shimgray | talk | 21:54, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Apollo 20
Can someone do a debunking of the Apollo 20 myth? There seems to be a lot of stuff floating round the internet purporting to be footage from it, of an alien craft on the Moon. It's a fake, but not one of the worst ones. Still worth a mention. --MacRusgail 20:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree I think it's worth including. Some of the footage circluating on Youtube looks professoinally done, suggesting perhaps an Alternative 3-style production exists (so this would go under the Fiction category. Some of the Youtube clips claim the truth will be revealed in September 2007, so maybe this film is set to be released that month and the clips circulating are some sort of viral marketing. 68.146.47.196 14:53, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- I've got no idea what the person who released those clips was trying to do. Basically I had been keeping an eye on the Youtube site for some time and we are now in Jan 2008 and there has been no film release or further clips since about June of 2007. See [Apollohoax.net] for one skeptical discussion of these claims. Graham1973 (talk) 16:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Crews for cancelled missions
I think the commanders for the cancelled mission came of the third selction group (It was around 1969 when Slayton think about the crew selection). I mean Apollo 18 would be Richard Gordon, this right, but Apollo 19 commander could be Donn Eisle and Apollo 20 commander position was orign Bill Anders. Eisele was back-up command-module-pilot of Apollo 10 and Pilot of the Apollo 13 Mission, so he could be Commander of Apollo 19. Bill Anders was back-up command-module-pilot of Apollo 11 and Pilot of Apollo 14. Then end of 1969 Anders left the NASA and was replaced into Mattingly. On Januar 1970 Apollo 20 was cacelled, because the Skylab space station needed a Saturn V Booster. On March 1970 Apollo 13 Crew Cooper and Eisele were replaced of Al Shepard and Stu Roosa (Mitchell stayed in the crew. Because Shepard have probleme with his ear, the Apollo 13 and Apollo 14 crews change the missions. When Apollo 13 pilot Mattingly was ill, he was replaced into Swigert. Then Apollo 13 desaster happened, Slayton gave Haise the chance to commended Apollo 19. On September 1970 Apollo 19 and 18 was cancelled. So I am wondered that Conrad or Roosa are names of commanders position for Apollo 20.
Philipp Mevius, Germany 2007-10-29
[edit] LM-13: destined for Apollo 18 or Apollo 19?
The article currently claims that LM-13, on display at the Cradle of Aviation Museum, was scheduled to land on the moon for Apollo 19. However,
- the museum itself says here that it was planned for launch on Apollo 18 in 1973, to Copernicus Crater
and
- the ASME website, where it designates LM-13 as and engineering "Landmark", claims that it was slated for Apollo 18
- Paul Filmer, (Staff, Geosciences Directorate, National Science Foundation) researched the disposition of the LM's and posted on the Mad Sci network that it was for Apollo 18
- the SpaceCraft Assembly and Test (S/CAT) Remembered web site agrees
Admittedly,
- This Usenet thread from sci.space.history supports the Apollo-19 claim
- The Lunar Republic also says that LM-13 was scheduled for Apollo 19, but it says that Apollo 18 became the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project, so its numbering is questionable
Useless links include
- The Apollo Archive, which only notes (when you click on the Spacecraft link) that it was "Cancelled"
- The Franklin Institute also punts the question with a Cancelled and no further details
So to sum it up, I'm wondering if there is either a more "authoritative" source or (even better) some place that could explain the numbering confusion?
