Talk:Canada Border Services Agency
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[edit] assessment
Start class until there are some references, I'm afraid--SGGH 11:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Building the CBSA page
The CBSA entry has been pathetically small forever. I've decided to try and build it up, but it's a pretty big job. In comparison to the RCMP entry, this thing is laughable. But, considering that it is the second-biggest law enforcement agency in Canada, it needs to be better.
Anyone who wants to help out with the rebuild is more than welcome. I'm not sure that how I've formatted it is all that great, but it will do for now. It needs information thrown in and categorized, and then we can figure out how to format it. It should also spawn the creation of several new pages which don't yet exist, including:
- Integrated Border Enforcement Team
- Border Services Officer
I will add more as I come across them.
The article needs some images, such as the logo, etc. It could also use a section of the rank insignias, which some military pages have. Basically there's a whole lot to be done here.
(10 Sep 2006 1646GMT) - Rank insignias? What rank insignias? Superintendent 2 stripes, chief 3 stripes :).
- Rigaud facilitators have 1 1/2 stripes, there's something above a Chief that has 4 stripes.
[edit] Related Pages
The Border Services Officer page has been created, but is bare bones. I'm working on an IBET page. Addin some US info to it would be great once it's up. I've also categorized and cross-linked to more related pages. Cfish039
[edit] Reasonable Grounds
I wish to add a clarification to the article which states:
"The intensity of an examination depends on the reasonable grounds that the officer has to escalate the intensiveness of a search."
This statement is specific only to the subject of searches of the person (section 98 of the customs act.) Reasonable grounds are neccesary to justify the need for compelling the traveller to disrobe or submit to more invasive procedures.
It should be noted that examination of purses and wallets, and the pockets of coats and pants etc do not require such grounds. Furthermore, in the event that a traveller is detained or arrested, a very thorough "frisk" is reasonable to ensure there are no weapons or other threats to the officer's safety.
Reasonable grounds are also not required for the examination of any sort of goods or conveyances (vehicles), to whatever depth the officer feels is required accomplish his duty. Based on the principal that a soverign nation has the right to control all goods entering its borders, the freedom to inspect objects is essentially unlimited. - Observer94
- Yes and no. Reasonable grounds are more stringent under section 98, but under section 99 there are still limitations. The CBSA is still limited by the Charter, particularly sections 8, 9 and 10. Unreasonable search and seizure, and arbitrary arrest and detention still apply. There is a grey area where a regular customs examination turns into a detention. In particular, this comes into play when BSOs are enforcing the Criminal Code. They must, for example, have RPGs to arrest for impaired driving and reasonable suspicion to demand a sample of a person's breath. There's no carte blanche in play. It is simply less stringent.
[edit] Immigration to Canada
This section, in my opinion needs serious work. The statistics quoted are out of date (end of 2003) and the end of the second paragraph hardly makes any sense:
"There are very few illegal immigrants who enter the country without first being admitted by the CBSA. The reason for this is that Canada is physically very difficult to get to, with the exception of crossing the Canada/U.S. border. As the U.S. is itself a prime destination for illegal immigrants, not many illegal immigrants then attempt to cross the border into Canada in the wild. This differs significantly from the illegal immigration patterns in the U.S., which stem from illegal border crossings."
I am not sure what this section should contain as the article is about the CBSA. It might contain the role of CBSA in Canada's immigration process which is primary determination of admissibility at the port of entry as well as detention, and removal of inadmissible persons. These duties were taken over from Citizenship and Immigration Candada. Gordon Bonnar 00:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merger proposal
I proposed a merge because the information on this page is too short and fits better within the CBSA article. --Cahk (talk) 05:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC) Union
Union
CBSA agency is part of the Public Service Alliance of Canada (PSAC), a union that also promotes social justice, gender and racial equality. The fact that they include a partially-armed force such as CBSA could be considered contradictory (perhaps disgraceful).Opusv5 (talk) 18:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
