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Should there be mention of the Park's recent PST fiasco? The park wasn't giving customers a PST exemption for certain items including food and merchandise. Reported numerous times by Citytv...[1]

I'd lean toward leaving that out of the article. It seems like a bit of a contemporary triviality that no one will care about in 5 years. If the problem persisted and they were charged it would worthy of inclusion. --NormanEinstein June 28, 2005 22:42 (UTC)
By all accounts, the park has been overcharging customers for years. Citytv has been following the story for over 2 weeks, and the park has yet to make any changes since the story was first aired. The station estimates that the park's customers are paying an additional 5-10 million dollars each year because of this gaffe.
Management blames the student staff (the largest summer student employer in the GTA I believe) for this problem, but the management themselves should be making more of an effort to educate all of its vendors about the problem.--Madchester June 30, 2005 05:29 (UTC)


This article is useless without mentioning the park's funnel cakes! --Madchester June 30, 2005 05:27 (UTC)

Haha, I agree. Sana 08:04, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
PCW is not only the largest student employer in the GTA, it is Canada's Largest employer of Young People (though they don't specify what exactly Young People are.) --Dzmatt August 16, 2005 17:59 (UTC)


The mighty canadian mine buster is NOT the longest wooden roller coaster in Canada. Le monstre at laronde is. Monstre = Track 1=1218 meters Track 2=1227 meters

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[edit] Frontier Canada

If anyone has one of the original park maps - could they be so kind as to scan and upload a high quality version of it! - I would do it if I had a copy of that map! - if you have extras I would buy it from you! Thanks - User: Themepark

Well I don't know if it would scan but I know in the men's washroom in Maintenance there is a 5x5 foot map of the park from like 1982 or something.

Well if you could scan it in - that would be great!!! - if you need help reassembling the image in photoshop, just send me the sections and I can do it for you. User: Themepark


It won't be easy, because only Park Maintenance have access to that. No other employees do, so it's not going to be easy. cncxbox 24 August 2007.

[edit] Wild Beast is the fastest.

Wild Beast is faster than The Great Canadian Minebuster. Wild Beast goes approximately 56 mph. The Great Canadian Minebuster only goes approximately 55.9 mph.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.46.141.191 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Is this a joke? You may want to realize that 55.9 ≈ 56, and as both given speeds are approximate, there is no case for distinction here. –Dvandersluis 16:07, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
It is quite perceived that Wild Beast may be faster since it's bumpier and the gravity pushes you more on this ride than any other. While the official information is in km/h, it should not vary by a lot. – cncxbox 05:28, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Section?

I removed this because I couldn't decide which section it should be in: An episode of The Littlest Hobo was set at Canada's Wonderland in the very early days of the park. Would this belong in a new sectioncalled something like culteral impact or even trivia? RJFJR 13:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I think a trivia section could be appropriate. – Dvandersluis 14:08, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Works for me. RJFJR 19:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name change

I think most (if not all) references to "Paramount Canada's Wonderland" have been replaced with just "Canada's Wonderland" now (I went through all the pages that came up in a search of "Paramount Canada's Wonderland" and replaced the text). A bunch of links to other articles on this page became redlinks previously, because the text was changed but the actual pages weren't moved, but I've fixed that. We do need to get a picture of the logo, though, since the previous one seems to have been deleted. –Dvandersluis 16:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

The new logo sucks. How can they not have the mountain in the logo? Come on! Tenspeeder 22:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Mountain was also in Paramount logo, so it was nixed, same as the stars 142.204.70.20 20:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I have added "Paramount Canada's Wonderland" under the "Recent History" section to denote the fact the park was renamed to this after it was acquired by Paramount Parks. Toward the end of the section I note it has since been remaned to the original "Canada's Wonderland" following its acquisition by Cedar Fair. Grimey109 18:15, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major Attractions by Year

I marked this section for a potential split. I'm not sure if the information within it is necessary to be collected in one central place (I'd purport that at least 90+% of it is contained within the various CW articles already, such as list of roller coasters at Canada's Wonderland), but it shouldn't be on the already bloated main article. –Dvandersluis 21:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree, but I believe the section should be deleted entirely from the article. I also believe the information contained within this section is (or could be contained) in each of the articles pertaining to the rides listed. Also, this section is somewhat of an eyesore. Grimey109 18:15, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deaths at the park

Several people have died! Not on rides, but elderly, heart attacks, there was a shooting hence the metal detectors. Check your facts! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.250.76 (talk • contribs)

No reported deaths by any of my co-workers (yes, I work at Wonderland). So I don't have any verifications, do you? – cncxbox 24 August 2007. —The preceding signed but undated
I work at wonderland too, and I have not heard of any guests dying other than the drowning 20ish years ago. Sigz 19:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
It was in the summer of 1985. A mentally retarded man leapt into the water behind the falls to retrieve his frisbee, and he got pulled under by the currents and drowned. This is not simply something that I heard somewhere from someone. I remember the story being in the newspapers and on the television news. Whoever wrote that garbage about no-one ever drowning at Wonderland doesn't know what s/he's talking about. I've removed it. I have searched the 'Net but haven't found a reference to the tragedy yet. The walkway behind the waterfall has been closed since then. Kelisi (talk) 11:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
My apologies. It might have been 1988 or 1989 as a writer lower down says. I was under the impression, though, that it was the year after I worked there (1984). I've tried other languages now, and still I can find no reference. I'd consult the library, but I'm abroad at the moment. Kelisi (talk) 11:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I believe I can settle this once and for all. Rodney Joyce, a Grade 12 Student from Sir William Osler High School died May 23, 1998 after chasing a frisbee into the water behind the falls. blamed for Wonderland drowning Inquest ordered into tragedy that killed Scarborough teen. Also: standards needed at parks, says jury probing teen's drowning. I have made a few inquiries to people I know at the company who have all verified this story. cncxbox, I'm not sure who you asked, but I guess they may not have been around that long. 74.13.124.103 (talk) 04:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Whoops forgot to login! (Was me above)Sigz (talk) 05:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
ok, if the rest of the community wants to put it in and cite The Toronto Star, then go ahead. This is conclusive evidence then. However, there's no other evidence about "several" people died. Nor has there been proof of shootings within the park. I've heard outside but not on park premises. - cncxbox 22:46 02 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] False Statement

"Unsubstantiated rumours have swirled that a person died at the base of Wonder Mountain. However, other than a shooting which took place outside the front gate (stemming from an earlier argument from off park property), there have been no confirmed deaths at the Park that were not as a result of 'natural causes'". - This statement is completely false! Somebody did die at the base of the Wonder Mountain. It happened on Victoria Day back in 1988 or 89. A guy drowned by falling into the pool at base of Victoria Falls. Go to the Library and do your research! This whole article REALLY needs to fixed!!

This is quite true, as I was there when this happened (although only 2 at the time). My parent's friend who was walking with us in the park (a VP at the time) jumped in to try and save the person. They were playing frisbee in the path behind victoria falls when the frisbee fell into the water and one of the men jumped to get it, but failed to stay afloat. This is why the path behind the falls is closed.207.164.201.118 20:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

However, there are no official records exist to check back to at the moment. Victoria Falls has always been exclusive to the divers and no where else. cncxbox 24 August 2007

Why don't you move your lazy ass off your computer chair and go to the library! If you check past Toronto Star articles from May 1988 or 1989. You're definitely going to find records pertaining to this. It was big news at the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.106.21.196 (talk) 19:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe the Victoria Falls thing was true, but if people actually can get pulled underwater, then why do they have those cliff diving shows where the people just dive down and climb out? - 99.238.90.70 16:45, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I have yet found any records from the company, nor have I found anything like this after talking to my supervisor or other higher ranked colleagues. Your statement is still currently unfounded until hard evidence can be found. cncxbox 16 February 2008. —Preceding comment was added at 01:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Metal Detectors

"Another common myth surrounding the Park is that the metal detectors were a result of the above mentioned shooting. However, the metal detectors were planned prior to the shooting, following the lead of several American parks."
All reference of the shooting has been removed. This point under "Facts" mentions something no longer in the article.
Sana 08:05, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The park has metal detectors in all sorts of entrances, including the Employee's Entrance, so I don't think it was because of the shootings. -- cncxbox 16 February 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 01:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

the metal detectors at Gate 2, 6 and Front Gate went in after the shooting. They were part of the Zero-Tolerance Policy that went in around the same time. Sigz (talk) 17:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2008 Attraction

Resolved.

Would a picture taken by an enthusiast be enough confirmation to but CW's 2008 attraction down as a B&M rollercoaster? 66.65.240.77 00:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it would be definite confirmation of the roller coaster, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to post it (here or on the article) to let people decide for themselves. - zachinthebox (User • Talk) 04:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
You can clearly see the construction site right next to The Italian Job. From what I know, it used to be a lake which they just filled to make this new coaster cncxbox 24 August 2007
The lake is not being drained or filled. Part of the coast near Kingswood has aquadams in place to facilitate the install of the supports for the ride. The dams will be removed when construction is done, and the rest of the lake remains untouched. Sigz 19:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
The speculation is over: the long awaited roller coaster is now open to the public. Johnny Au (talk) 16:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Is this just a comment or is there something that needs to be changed on the article? Could you be more clear, please. Thanks. DoubleBlue (Talk) 17:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
It is just an action to remove this section from the talk page. Johnny Au (talk) 17:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)