Talk:Camael

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[edit] Redirection and other matters

It is unfathomable to me why Chamuel redirects here instead of the other way around, especially since it's evident you replaced the entire content of that page with the redirect. The new-agey and esoteric stuff is at least as relevant as the stub that replaced it since it's fairly common usage -- perhaps the most common. But why on earth make the Latinized version of the name the main article? Transliterated more directly from the Hebrew it's "Chamuel". That should have been left as the main title.

We have the same thing here as at Haniel (archangel) with the References section, with a large number of works cited that weren't actually used. And again as at Haniel, there's this assertion of Christian veneration in the passive voice. Most sources are fairly clear that the Catholics have no official cult of any archangels but Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael, and I know that Orthodox Christianity doesn't venerate this archangel either. Who associates this archangel with Christianity? If you can't answer that question, please don't throw this "Judaeo-Christian" label around, since it can't be justified. TCC (talk) (contribs) 19:55, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree, see edithistories. Zanaq 23:30, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Satanael's change from "References" to "Further reading" was based on my complaint at Haniel (archangel) that such a short stub couldn't possibly be based on such a long list of sources. He(?) admitted that he actually has only one of those books and that the article was in fact not based on all of them.

By the way, why are these articles Haniel (archangel) and Camael (archangel) instead of just Hamiel and Camael? There's no reason for the longer title that I can see. TCC (talk) (contribs) 09:15, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Chamuel is one of the two chiefs of the Dominions, along with Zadkiel.

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