Talk:Calvin Johnson (American football)

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[edit] Cleanup

What parts of the article need cleanup? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 04:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

The "football" section could perhaps be divided into a college and high school section, as the information routinely skips back and forth between college and high school careers, and is generally unorganized. —Pinkfloyd5040 (talk/contribs) 05:57, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I've attempted to remedy that. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I also would like to see a table that lists his stats each year, for at least his college career. An infobox should be added with the picture put in there. Replacing the image with a free one is also preferred. You can use {{NFL player}} for the infobox (there is no college one, yet). --MECU≈talk 23:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
See "Expand" below for a couple stats tables, see "Infobox" below for the infobox. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 06:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

This section is a semi-sandbox to collaborate on the content of the infobox. See {{NFL player}} for documentation. My initial attempt at filling it in is to the right. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:21, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expand

In my search to fill in the template, I found his espn stat page, a cbs sports profile, a nice article on him, and 791,000 google results, This article officially has no excuse for being so short. :) Also, for someone called "the best player in college football," I think he ranks a little higher than "Low" priority. I'll up it to "Mid" for now. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Error I noticed

I really don't want to mess up the article by editing myself but i'm saying this so someone will change the thing i noticed. In the first paragraph it says: "He is clearly the most talented wide recieverS in all of college football in 2006" which i'm pretty sure is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterJI1 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for pointing that out. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions

I have a couple suggestions that i think would improve the article. I am saying this and not doing anything because I really don't want to end up accidentily deleting the whole thing or something. I really think it would be better to change the section called college drafting to Recruiting or something to do with him being recruited. The title of this section really threw me off because I thought it would be about him and the nfl draft which brings me to my second suggestion. After the college career, have a section about the nfl draft and include this sentence which i think is great---->Johnson was SI.com's Midseason NFL Draft Projection #1 pick. I am in no way critizing the article or the person who wrote it, i am just suggesting ways to improve it. Sorry if i am suggesting too much and not doing anything.---->PeterJI1 04:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions! The subsections of the football section were somewhat arbitrary, as the section was a large, disorganized block of text before that. I'll go ahead and make Recruiting and NFL Draft now. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 19:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vertical

I seem to remember reading a recent quote in The Technique from Reggie Ball that said while Calvin's official leaping ability is 45", that's as far as the thing that measures it goes, and that his real vertical is higher than that. If we could find that quote, perhaps we could nail down his vertical. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 19:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

During the ESPN television broadcast where he was given his Biletnikoff Award, he confirmed that he has a 45" vertical. -Drdisque 19:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

I think that Calvin Johnson should redirect directly to this page and put one of the things thats says if you want the musician click here, since obviously this one is more famous, especially since he will be a top draft pick if he enters next years draft. I have done this once, but forgot how. Superscubasteve 14:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. Niether Johnson is so famous that they should get the root page. The other one has his own record label, and has been in the music biz for roughly forever. They're both very notable in their own right. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 14:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I still think it's only a matter of time before this CJ gets the root page :) Superscubasteve 02:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I think it's a matter of how many pages link to a certain page. Right now, about twice as many pages link to Calvin Johnson (musician) than to Calvin Johnson (football); so, about 2:1. So, once it gets to about 1:5 to 1:15, yes, I could see the root page belonging to our football star. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 02:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Disavian, the link ratio will reach a critical mass and at that point all of Calvin Johnson (musician)'s fans won't be able to disagree. However I believe Superscubasteve is correct in that it won't take very long. The NFL articles do a heavy amount of linking and I'm sure he'll have an entire city that wants to read about him. Captkrob 17:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

The picture with him holding the ball is better! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.244.215.19 (talk • contribs)

If you wish to have that picture in the article, it would be best later in the article, included outside of the infobox. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 21:15, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Looks great :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 21:25, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
While I do love the pic I uploaded, the new pic looks like 'HD' compared to my 'SD' pic. Good find. Superscubasteve 02:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The creator of that pic is the current photography editor of The Technique and one of the best photographers that I know. His website is http://jmhphoto.net/. I especially love his IR photo of the the shaft. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 02:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I went to flickr and found us some better pictures :) I still prefer Jamie's headshot for the lead/infobox, but the new ones really add something to the other sections. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 16:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review 3/2/07

Hello, I just finished reading over this article and gave it an evaluation according to WP:WIAGA. In general, the article is well written and structured, but could use some additional information.

  • Well Written – Pass, However please consider adding what the numbers in the lead represent. Example: 6-5 feet, 239lbs. General readers who may not know much about Football may not understand what the numbers mean.
  • Verifiable – Pass, Article is well referenced – with the exception of the SI #4 detail. All references are properly cited according to WP:CS
  • Broad – Pass, Article establishes that Johnson is a unique athlete, productive player, and has a good character.
  • NPOV – Pass, neutral for the most part.
  • Stable – Pass, History shows no signs of major edit wars.
  • Images – Pass, However, the second image is somewhat questionable as it lacks meta-data and a believable summary. Since there’s no way to prove the image belongs to someone else, I guess it’s fine.

GA – Passed!

I would recommend adding information about Johnson’s personal and early life, but it may be hard to find right now. Consider looking into the suggestions I left you, as I feel they will help the article reach a Featured Article Status someday. When you feel the article is ready for a FA review, please be sure to get a peer review first, this will fix many little errors. Keep up the good work. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  20:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all of the constructive suggestions! :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 00:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox text color

Okay, what's with all of the reversions and revisions? Let's decide on a color and stick to it. I vote white, as grey on blue is sort of difficult to read. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 06:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

How is that difficult to read? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisjnelson (talk • contribs)
I have no difficulty reading the gray on blue. -Drdisque 07:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Admittedly, my left monitor sucks pretty hard. I'm just looking for some consensus on the color, that's all. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 07:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personality

An anon removed this:

“ It is often mentioned that he is also a very humble and well-behaved person.[1] ”

Stating:

“ Eliminated "It is often mentioned that he is also a very humble and well-behaved person." This statement is non-factual and irrelevant. ”

However, having read what are probably a hundred news articles about him, I assure you that they make frequent mention of him being humble/well-mannered/et cetera. Also note the GA reviewer appreciated this extra detail, and the peer reviewer suggested that we expand upon it. What would be the best way of doing so? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 12:57, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Replace: it's cited and seems appropriate. -Drdisque (talk) 13:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A-class

I've closed the A-class review because there's been no activity there for over two months. DrKiernan (talk) 09:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

That's unfortunate, but understandable. Is that a norm in terms of WP:BIO A-class review, or an anomaly? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 13:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
It's been very slow just recently. I think interest in the review process has tailed off, and it isn't a particular reflection on the article. DrKiernan (talk) 15:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)