Talk:Call girl
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[edit] Edits by 78.148.250.211
Moved this from the article to the talk page
Comment: The above paragraph [about the quality of escorts] is misleading. Escorts are rarely vetted; often, agency owners will not even know their names, so background checks are definitely not the norm. Attractiveness is also subjective and you will find agencies who cater for all types. This is based on experience of working as an escort in the UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Digana (talk • contribs) 14:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Encyclopedic Tone
Is there any way we can modify this article to make it more, um, neutral? To my inexperienced mind it reads more like a career-day pitch for the escort profession or even like an attempt (appropriate or otherwise) to deflect some perceived stigma associated with patronizing or practicing this vocation.
I disagree, I think this is a reasonably fair treatment of the subject, with none of the usual subtle negative bias that creeps into these discussions where escorting is usually linked to social problems such as drugs and crime. Please remember we are dealing with a worldwide audience, some of whose countries have decriminalised this sort of activity. This isn't just for an American audience. Bolddog 11:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I think everyone needs to read the second paragraph a little more closely. -- Nick Begovich 19:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Call Girls in College
I'd like to see some statistics on this claim; in the meantime, I have removed it. I have researched, and found no evidence that it is a "growing trend" for call girls to emerge in colleges. The description of college women trying to pay tuition smacks of late-night premium Cable television. The entire paragraph is spawned from immature fantasy and ignorant speculation.
- You can find call girls that claim to be college students all over the place. I strongly doubt though that there is any evidence to be had of a growing trend. 66.157.199.112 08:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I would dispute that the last commentators comments it is growing [1] [2][3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwanyewest (talk • contribs) 17:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pander
"Pander"? Never heard the term before. Please either define the link or remove it. Mat-C 14:38, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- The term is somewhat archaic but it generally means (or meant) a person who obtains the services of a prostitute for the man who is to engage the prostitute. A pander differs from a pimp in that he "works" for the prositute's "customer", rather than being the "boss" of the prostitute. Kind of a "personal shopper" for the would-be john, if you will. In English the name derives from the character of Pandarus. Ellsworth 23:33, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Actually, "pander" is a verb, and a person who panders is called a "panderer." I have made the correction.
[edit] Gender
Does "call girl" have a masculine equivalent?? 66.245.1.229 20:00, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Fred Garvin maybe?194.183.196.141 07:12, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- The male equivalent is "rent boy". --64.229.29.248 01:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
The male equivalent is Male Escort. Bolddog 13:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Hiring" a boyfriend or girlfriend in China not associated with sex trade at all
In early 21st-century China, many men who have just attained marriageable age also tend to appease others by looking for a woman to play the role of a prospective. Apart from peer pressure, this tendency is also attributable to familial pressure, more common for rural dwellers who work in larger cities. These men consider themselves quite successful in their careers, but simply have little time for the courtship process. To address this matter, there are women who can be rented as 'actresses', mostly on an amateur basis. These women hardly ever carry the stigma associated with call girls in the West, and are hardly ever organised. It is unusual for Chinese to even remotely associate these women with prostitution or these men with sex clients. High-profile advertising seeking these 'actresses' has received considerable media attention. Real date relationships with these 'actresses' have also been reported to ensue. Women, on the other hand, are known to have similar thoughts and actions as well.
-> Well it sounds like a good thing to include. To me that culture makes more sense, although if it comes to the stage where a guy will have to or be expected to pay a girl, or girls can exploit guys with low self-esteem... then that's bad as well.
Well these aren't really call girls are they? This is what the phrase "Escorting" originally meant. Bolddog 13:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Call girl health and police sting operations
One issue this article lacks is mention that call girls are often perceived, right or wrong, as being more concerned with STD prevention compared with street prostitutes. Another thing this article lacks is mention of the criticism pro-legalization activists have directed at the police for donating precious resources at call girls that would be better directed at pimps. Similar criticisms have been directed at busts of massage parlors that provide sex-related extra services. --Cab88 12:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
This is an American phenomenon, in England prostitution is illegal. Solicitation is illegal as are "brothels". The laws are directed more toward "pimps" and those who live of a working girl's earnings. "Living off immoral earnings" is a crime in the UK, but actuly providing sexual services for money is not.
I believe this section needs more geographical relevance, possibly splitting it up by continent? After all its not just about the USA ;) Bolddog 13:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Call Girl or Escort?
Call Girl is a particularly American phrase. In the UK and Europe the term "Escort" is more common. Because of the legal framework in the UK where prostitution is not actually illegal (although solicitation of sexual services is illegal), the Escort "industry" particualrly in London has exploded over the last few years. I'd like to write a piece about the development of the London Escort industry, but I'm a wiki noob so any guidance would he appreciated. Bolddog 13:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, the term "escort" is widespread in the United States as well. Where it gets tricky is that an "escort" can also refer to someone who is not a prostitute, such as a hired companion for a social function. However, the overwhelming majority of people who advertise as "escorts" are, in fact, offering sexual services. The term "call girl" is kind of a dated term at this point, though still used. Perhaps this article should be moved to "escort"? Iamcuriousblue 11:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Blackmail
This sentence in the Internet section:
This has led some customers to blackmail call girls by threatening of a bad rating in order to obtain more sexual services or a discount on the rate.
Where is the evidence? In my experience this is a rare occurance and not that big a deal. Most girls laugh at the blackmailer and cick them out. It really isnt' worth mentioning and all it does is make the topic sound MORE sleazy and crime ridden than it already does. I believe this sentence shoudl be removed.
The sentence about girls writing their own reviews is accurate, although the sites do try to spot and filter those contributions out. I'll add that addendum, but I am not sure about wholesale removal of sentences yet - I'm still new to this! Bolddog 14:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Public Perception Of Call Girls
The first few sentences of this last section are of total opinion and don't really speak for the occupation as a whole. I think it is entirely subjective and should be removed or at least revised.
deftdrummer Chico, CA Jan 21, 2007
[edit] External Links
I am removing the external links. There are countless escort agencies, and Wikipedia is not an advertising directory. Recurring dreams 08:28, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Page protection
I think the simplest way to deal with the problem of constant linkspamming of this page is to request semi-protection. I'll put in a request today. Iamcuriousblue 16:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
