Talk:California State University, Long Beach
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[edit] Impaction
I'm not sure what type of person wrote this article, but most literate people tend to agree that using "impact" as a verb (when not talking about dental surgery) is not wise. That someone could accept a section head like "impaction" or talk about "impacted majors" is beyond me. It's more infuriating that the college website uses that language.
"Is our children learning?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.209.128.67 (talk) 05:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pyramid image in infobox
I recommend moving the pyramid image in the infobox further down the article and putting the school logo/shield/emblem in the infobox, as is done on other college and university pages. – MementoVivere 20:43, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- The Pyramid picture doesn't have any copyright info listed for it, so it may have to be removed anyway. My guess is that it is probably a publicity picture for the CSULB and is copyrighted. I may purchase a digital camera in the next month, so maybe I will then be able to shoot a replacement that will have a proper GFDL license.
- As for moving the picture (at least while it's still here)—Be bold! BlankVerse ∅ 14:16, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As far as the prominant position of the pyramid; The school has become much identified with it. It appears prominantly on campus clothing, regalia, literature and has been incorporated into various campus logos. [1] It is in effect a much loved symbol of the school and is not out of place in it's current position. --SAUNDERS 01:48, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I've changed my mind. I think a the school logo would be nice in that position but I'm haveing difficulty finding a quality logo. If the pyramid does get moved I don't think it should be removed from the article for the reasons I wrote about on June 16 --SAUNDERS 02:38, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
The following is from the United States Copyright office website under Title 17 chapter 1:
"The “United States”, when used in a geographical sense, comprises the several States, the District of Columbia and the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and the organized territories under the jurisdiction of the United States Government."
CSULB as a California State entity is a jurisdiciton under the United States Government
Further under Section 105 of the same code:
"Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of the United States Government, but the United States Government is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest, or otherwise."
Ergo, CSULB as an entity under the U.S. Government is not allowed to copyright images thus the image of the pyramid is within legitimate use.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. It wouldn't be the first or the last time.
Almost all US Govt. publications are in the public domain which is the reason that the Wikipedia can use the images from NASA, for just one example. Even most publications from the State of California government are in the public domain (although that is not true for all states), which is the reason that I could use both text and drawings from the Calif. Dept. of Fish and Game for much of the recently grunion article. The California State University system, however, is a separate entity, and will have different rules. If the picture is truely from the CSULB publicity dept., then it may be just a matter of getting the school to license the image according to the GFDL (if you do contact them, it is best to explain upfront that what you will be using will be a smaller, lower-resolution version of their image (72-100 dpi)). On the other hand, I have not had much luck in persuading government agencies to license their images for use on the Wikipedia. BlankVerse ∅ 13:21, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Tuition
Tuition is now significantly higher, at over $2800/year.
- Tuition is actually $0 a year. Fees, however are at $2864 per year, assuming the student takes only Fall and Spring courses as a full-time student. Nonetheless, this is still very inexpensive. I'll make the change. Someone might want to check if, as the article states, we are really the least expensive (which seems highly unlikely to me).
Alumni
Suggest that someone make a seperate page for "Long Beach State People" as the current page is unwieldy and I have been adding the large number of sports alumni to the page.
[edit] Ron Young (bad link)
The link formerly used for Ron Young (professor) went to a reality game show contestant. I removed it. I can't tell if the professor has a page in Wikipedia, but it doesn't look like he does. If he does, someone needs to create a disambiguation page for both Ron Youngs. Pschelden 22:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:CSU.PNG
Image:CSU.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 03:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Csulb.jpg
Image:Csulb.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 23:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] CSULB Navbox
I ran across the unused navbox {{California State University, Long Beach}} out in the far reaches of Template Space, apparently being put together by Foolishgrunt back in August for CSULB in the pattern of {{California State University}}, {{San Diego State University}}, etc. If someone wants to take a crack at finishing the job by turning all those external links into wikilinks, the template can be posted to aid internal navigation between CSULB-related articles. If you need any help (e.g., to expand the template to include new subheadings, etc.), just drop me a note. --Dynaflow babble 05:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- I figured that navbox would go unnoticed forever. I didn't even notice when somebody did notice it. ;)
- Besides not having enough items to include, the biggest reason I didn't insert that template into the main article was that none of the colleges or research facilities have Wiki articles to link to. The best I could do was use the school website to track down some external links. As much as I would love to write the articles myself, I'm a full-time student and don't have the time. I could probably throw together a few stubs, but I was afraid that would just make it look more unorganized than it already does.--Foolishgrunt (talk) 05:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
