Talk:California Love

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There was a huge article modification done by an anonyme unregistered editor. I deleted it because the lack of any information sources but I changed my mind so merged here maybe someone could sort it out.Lajbi 13:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC) Here it is:

"The desert scene for this video is also rumored to be a metaphore. Tupac wanted to show the video as a nightmare he interpreted in his sleep. Tupac was motivated to use the desert as an actual representation of Blacks from South Central Los Angeles escaping to towns such as Palmdale and Antelope Valley. For those not in the know, Palmdale/Antelope Valley are desert communities located to the East of Los Angeles (on the other side of the mountains). Many Blacks have since left Los Angeles and its troubles for the safer escapes of such places as Palmdale. As of 2005 South Central as a whole has a Mexican/Latino population of 60%. The Black population in certain parts have either been neutralized by recent Latino immigrants or vastly replaced even to the point of a whole 360 cultural turn around in certain areas.

The reason 2pac showed the Black's angry and ready to ride to war in the desert setting (representation of Palmdale) of California Love's video was simple. 2pac wanted to point out that regardless of Blacks fleeing physically from South Central, the fact remains that the gang mentality and affiliations might flee with them. Pac wanted to show that it doesn't matter where you flee to on this earth, as long as you continue to live the way you have been conditioned to, you can even move to Beverly Hills and it might not make a major difference.

2pac's "California Love" was more than just a song of bravado and state love. It was his way of saying to the Black residents of South Central; "Stop!!! Don't flee!!! Running away from your problems will not always solve them! It doesn't matter where you are in this world, what matters is how you can fix yourself internally as an individual first, and then in turn your family, and then in turn your neighborhood, and finally in turn your whole community! Cuz without improving yourself first, you are doomed no matter where you run to in this earth"

This song was meant to be a horrible dream 2pac was envisioning and in turn prophetize will soon come to take place, 2pac wakes up screaming, sweating and shaking... But was it merely just a dream???

Like stated earlier above, South Central Los Angeles has slowly declined in its Black population, many of them have fled to places such as Palmdale and Las Vegas. Look at the gang issues in Las Vegas now and see where many of the families have from before arrived in Vegas...

Another good example is to research how the first Crip and Piru/Blood gangs were started in San Diego. A few of the families who had kids belonging in local South Central street gangs decided they wanted to escape the madness and sent their kids to places like San Diego. Next thing you know, these very same kids who's parents sent to San Diego to escape the L.A gang culture start up their own branches of Crips and Bloods in San Diego. Gang wars eventually increase in San Diego too in the early to late 80's...

Note to watch the Desert version of "California Love" video carefully and compare it to the "Live of the House of Blue's" remix video... see the differences in 2pac's interpretations of the same song..."

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[edit] Chilli Peppers

I can't find any reference to this song in any of the Chilli Peppers articles. Also, there's no reference to the song having been written by Zapp (band) anywhere but here. Is this really more than one song? Tedernst | talk 17:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sunshine state

In this song Dre says "We in that sunshine state with a bomb ass hemp beat" but the sunshine state is Florida, and this song is titled 'California' Love. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.141.32.104 (talk) 17:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC).

death row often travelled to florida when recording so its possible whoever wrote the verse J-Flexx accidently put that in and didn't realise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.237.16 (talk) 06:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Allusions

Don't forget the allusions this song makes to other artists and songs that influenced Tupac, I added some. Other editors, be on the lookout for more since it is such an important song to American culture. Banime 02:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tracklist

There is no track list for the cd single... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.154.194 (talk) 03:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)