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[edit] Requested move from Calakmul to Calakmul, Mexico

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved.

• Administrative; match existing standards

[edit] Discussion

• Oppose. See Teotihuacan, Chichen Itza, Cacaxtla. Altun Ha, etc. Perhaps it's Caracol, Belize, that's in the wrong place? –Hajor 13:49, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Oppose; I accept your reasoning. So, do you want to move Caracol? :) JEREMY 08:45, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Great; I will do so in a minute. Do you have any photos of Calakmul? I have some somewhere, but from the pre-digital age, which means firing up the scanner. –Hajor 13:40, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Excellent. Looks like you need to do the same with El Perú, Guatemala, Louisville, Belize, Piedras Negras, Guatemala, Kabah, Yucatán and Mani, Yucatán. (Are you doing redirects after the moves, btw? I hate the fact that those diacritics are necessary, and that the spelling is inherently inconsistent; I've already redirected Kalakmul, for example.) The categories need rationalisation, too: Maya sites, Archaeological sites, sites in specific countries, &c. Lots of redundancy and cross-over. Lots of work to untangle, too, sadly. Re. photos, I've written to a photographer who's got a lot of material online and offers it for re-use. If he's amenable, I'll grab something from there. JEREMY 06:03, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

OK, bit by bit ... Louisville, Belize, Piedras Negras, Guatemala, Kabah, Yucatán, and Mani, Yucatán, are all there at disambiguated article locations because of, respectively, Louisville (disambiguation), Piedras Negras, Kabah (!), and Mani. I'm not sure about El Perú, Guatemala -- I assumed El Perú would be a redirect to Peru, but it's not (Perú is). Sounds like a candidate ripe for moving, or some other form of rationalisation.

Redirects? Yup, someone moving a page is under a burden of trust to fix at least the double redirects (which don't work). Single-level redirects do work, however, and they can be safely left where they are.

How does one locate double redirects?

The "what links here" page lists every page that links to an article, including 2nd-level nesting for things that link by means of a redirect. That's where you can detect double redirs.

Categorisation. Yes. The whole category system is a mess. And moving stuff around various categories is such a drawn-out process that, a lot of the time, inertia wins. And because categorising something like "archaeological sites" is such a mammoth task, a lot of the time someone will embark on it only to lose heart halfway through. The category system is not one of Wikipedia's strong points.

Uhuh. Probably best left until someone can build a script.

Scripts = bots? Not something I know too much about.

Photos. I hope your photographer contact comes through. I succeeded in unearthing mine but, frankly, there was nothing there worth scanning. Cheers, –Hajor 23:03, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough. Will upload whatever I can come up with.

How do we close off this "move page" thread of Talk? JEREMY 08:02, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

One of us stops answering the other. Or starts a new section header and we continue thereunder. –Hajor 13:12, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main Picture

I added a picture of Calakmul because i thought it might need one. I'll be adding more tomorrow.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dragon Lost In Mexico (talk • contribs) 2 May 2007.

Thanks, DLIM. Looks fine.--cjllw ʘ TALK 00:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)