Talk:Cal Ripken, Jr.

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Contents 1 Redirect and disambiguation 2 Cleanup 3 How come we cannot include Ripken's chances of going into the HOF unanimously? 4 it should be noted on his page that... 5 Kevin Costner 6 Criticism of leadership 7 Sachio Kinugasa

[edit] Redirect and disambiguation

Cal Ripken should not redirect to Cal Ripken Jr., because there was a man named Cal Ripken, Sr., also...I have changed this. — Braaropolis | Talk 20:12, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Yes it should, and this should be okay because I have placed a disambig message at the top of Cal Ripken, Jr. The son is far more famous than the father. Nearly anyone searching for Cal Ripken is going to be looking for the son, not the father. Nearly all links to Cal Ripken, are going to be to the son, not the father. An article doesn't even exist yet for Cal Ripken, Sr., though someone may start the article soon. —Lowellian (talk) 09:03, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

That has now been done. Ellsworth 18:25, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

Submitted for cleanup: the entire article is written more like a feature story than an encyclopedia article, and needs attention.--Napthene 01:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I have started cleaning it up, but more help is always appreciated. --Awiseman 20:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for what you have done; I have tried removing the hyperbole....WillC 21:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I have cleaned up the language a great deal. I think there should be more about any bad seasons Ripken had, as now it's basically all good seasons. Anyone? --Awiseman 21:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

There's still a bit too much editoralizing in entry in my opinion. --The Kevin 14:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I definitely agree. Go for it. --Awiseman 17:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I've tried to clean it up with more neutral language. Some of the quotes should probably be removed if nobody can find anything to back them up. Mglovesfun 20:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not positive, but wasn't it Derek Jeter that moved to third for Cal in the 2001 All Star game? (I know whichever it was cleared it with Joe Torre ahead of time without telling Ripken. That I do remember from a post game interview with Torre.) S31064 (talk) 19:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How come we cannot include Ripken's chances of going into the HOF unanimously?

Everytime I try to add that Cal is a lock for first ballot HOF induction, it gets zapped; if it's okay for Tony Gwynn's article to mention that, why not Cal? It's a pretty well known fact that Cal has an excellent chance of becoming the first unanimously elected player as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Estil (talk • contribs)

• Because Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. If you've seen such original research predictions, regardless of how likely (I happen to agree with the Ripken prediction) they should be removed. If you can find notable sports figures (commentators, HOF organizers, etc) who've made comments on the subject you can include their comments as notable inputs, but your own voice (regardless of how likely) cannot be recorded in that way on Wikipedia. Staxringold _talk^contribs 19:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] it should be noted on his page that...

on cal ripkens Tying night- im talking the night of game #2130 (his breaking night would be the night of the game sept 5 1995 i believe game #2131) he hit a home run which landed on a very peculiar red seat in left field- the only red seat in the ballpark. i believe: Section 86 Row FF Seat 10 (do a search its on the internet i know it for a fact i have season tickets right next to the seat, #7). anyways heres the interesting trivia note: he hit that EXACT same seat where he hit home run 278 which broke ernie banks old record for home runs by a shortstop in 1993. ive read this numerous times on the internet. i know someone will find it in a news article, i have the old baltimore sun where theres an article about him and it mentins that fact in a box in my basement. it would be nice to see it on the site. if someone could do that it would be neat! my login name here is mackdiesel i just created it and i hope that noone deletes this paragraph without looking this up!!! my email is also mackel309@adelphia.net either way id like a repsonse thanks.

• Putting it in now, sourced to the Orioles ticket page. Staxringold _talk^contribs 18:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin Costner

the urban legend concerning kevin costner possibly sleeping with mrs. ripken has reached cult status and should be somehow noted. WillC 23:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

There's no possible way to justify adding an "urban legend." You could add hearsay to anyone's entry, and that's simply ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.253.17.119 (talk • contribs)

I agree with anonymous. If you can find a reliable source, fine, otherwise it's an urban legend --AW 19:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism of leadership

There's a great ESPN (or HBO?) biography of Ripken that delves into the amount of power, for better or worse, he had in leading the Orioles during the 1990's. I grew up loving him and still do, but his story is incomplete without an account of many Orioles' (especially including managers') criticism of Ripken's uncompromising control of the team. If someone has this bio, add what you think is relevant.--Akwhitacre 20:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sachio Kinugasa

I vividly remember that Sachio Kinugasa was present when Ripken eclipsed 2,215 games (Sachio's record from Japan). I can't think of a way to integrate Ripken breaking Sachio's record but I think it warrants mentioning. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC) he was the cutest there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.132.117.8 (talk) 20:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)