Image talk:Callistohudson.jpg

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This image was nominated for deletion on September 22, 2006. The result was keep. Discussion is below. -Nv8200p talk 17:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Uploaded by DrBat (notify | contribs). lack of proper source an tag play. Image once had no source, then had a fansite as a source, then was tagged as a magazine cover, promophoto, publicity photo... It's only a image found on the web used to illustrate articles about the celebrity depicted, the fictional character, etc. If it's a magazine cover, can't be used as it's currently used. If it's a promophoto, no one was able to provide a source for verifing this information...- Abu Badali 02:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The provided fair use rationale seems fine to me. Dionyseus 08:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Abu often overreacts on these things. It looks fine to me as well.--CyberGhostface 10:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Keep May not be perfect, but documented well enough to keep. May only be fair use in Callisto (Xena), not Hudson Leick or Xena: Warrior Princess -Nv8200p talk 03:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I have to disagree that the image is "documented well enough to keep". We need source info to claim this is a promotional image. --Abu Badali 09:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Keep It seems fine for the Callisto (Xena) article. -Ivan Kricancic 04:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Changed tag to fairusein:Callisto (Xena) -Nv8200p talk 20:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Comment - I insist we need proper source information, that was the original reason for this ifd. If we're not sure about the image source, we can't, for instance, say that the image use won't degrade the commercial value of the original publication (as we don't know the original publication). --Abu Badali 20:47, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Your insistance is irrelevent as mine would be. No copyright image can be 100% guarenteed to survive a copyright infringement case. We do not know that using the image won't degrade the commercial value. We would not know that for sure under any circumstance. We do not know that the magazine cover the image is on is not the original publication. I have no doubt the use would be judged to be fair if we were taken to court. I realize we don't want to go to court in the first place, but it is going to take a little risk to create the highest possible quality encyclopedia and we cannot do it without using fair use, including images that have a little ambiguity. -Nv8200p talk
Our insistence is necessary for the task of creating the highest possible quality free encyclopedia. There's no reason at all to use this image. A screenshot from some episode could be used to illustrate this fictional character and would have a 100% verifiable source info (the series name and episode number). --Abu Badali 00:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
A screenshot is no more free then this promo shot is so using one does not make a quality free encyclopedia. This shot is as verifiable as a screenshot. They are all copyright by Universal, the owner of the Xena franchise. -Nv8200p talk 12:49, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Again, the reason for this ifd nomination is the image's lack of source information. A screenshot would easly have this info. --Abu Badali 23:01, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
You can't get any source information from a screenshot. -Nv8200p talk 03:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
What do you mean? What about "Source: Screenshot from episode 11 from 3rd Season of Xena: Warrior Princess (aprox. 11min)"? This would be the source and would be vierifiable. --Abu Badali 10:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
That is not a source. That is a description. A source tells who the copyright holder is and what rights they reserve like what is on the image in the article. -Nv8200p talk 15:54, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Add the movie company. --Abu Badali 17:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
What is your problem? Why are you so hellbent on getting it removed?
The fact that the image appeared on the cover of the official magazine should prove its legit. Furthermore, the episode is from the episode "Return of Callisto", right after Callisto kills Perdicas and Xena arrives. --DrBat 00:43, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Not deleted. howcheng {chat} 17:44, 3 October 2006 (UTC)