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[edit] You Tube stats as reference

I'm not sure about using stats displayed on You Tube web pages as a reliable source to cite. Besides the fact that You Tube tech can be "iffy", there's nothing that confirms their accuracy. x 15:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I'm not sure it matters so much: if YouTube says she is the site's 11th most subscribed user, then she has the title of 11th most subscribed user, whether or not that title corresponds to any kind of technical reality. Ichormosquito 18:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Confirmed CHUD. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chudzooka (talk • contribs)

[edit] "YouTube celebrity"

"Celebrity", when qualified by "YouTube", refers to a YouTube user's possessing substantial fame within the YouTube community. To the extent it is an oxymoron, the term has slightly negative connotations; but it HAS been picked up by the mainstream press: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] Ichormosquito 06:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you create a wiki article explaining what it is? This person may have substantial fame on the internet, but the mainstream public has largely *NOT* heard of her. So as it stands, I'm changing it to the far something far more logical and less misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Impulsion (talk • contribs)
You know, I was thinking the same thing, actually. However, a look at WP:NEO shows that it fails the criteria listed there for an article about the term itself. While the term is certainly being used, I've not found any articles about the term itself. Therefore, it fails WP:NEO. As for the actual use of the term in this article, yeah, the term has seen some mainstream use, and yes, I know what a "YouTube celebrity" is (and am familiar with Hill's work on YouTube), but for the totally uninitiated, the term would be like, eh?, so I'd leave it off, at least at this point. SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
You convinced me. I'll be on the look out for better sources' regarding the term. Ichormosquito 21:22, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Wikipedia currently doesn't have an "internet personality" infobox, so "performer" is the next best thing. Neither "actor" nor "comedian" quite cuts it. I like the customizable color scheme and the option to list a performer's "genres", even if "genre" isn't the best word. Ichormosquito 00:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alex Day (Nerimon)

Hi, I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place cos I don't know the Wikipedia procedures, but I noticed someone adding information about me to Caitlin's page saying I'm 'romantically linked' and whatnot - despite you removing this, I wanted to clarify that the person adding this (Demon1988) isn't me and I have no affiliation with them. (Also, I'm not romantically linked with her, I just made a video about her to which she responded and that was it, so there's no basis here.) - Alex —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.240.137 (talk • contribs)

So basically, it seems that the system worked as it should in this case. We had no reliable sources for the claim, and it got killed. Thank you for coming by to confirm. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BIAS

this article is completely absurd. i am not sure why it's noteworthy that this girl, Caitlin submitted a "video" to some contest for MTV. didn't anyone bother to state that she didn't even make it into the contest at all? is this article her resume/cv? wow, completely ridiculous and bias information. this article reads like some make believe "advertisement" just added to help her career which doesn't even exist. please discuss, thanks. Sexyorge

It's gone now. Ichormosquito 23:29, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Besides the MTV thing, which has been struck from the article, what other concerns do you have? Ichormosquito 23:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
i am sorry are you an administrator or are you just asking me as a user? sorry just confused. i believe i already stated my "concerns". however, in general this article reads like an advertisement for "caitlin"'s resume. it's rather offensive and lacks factual information. Sexyorge
CNET, The Age and 60 Minutes constitute solid grounds for an article. After that, relevant primary sources are allowed for the purpose of fleshing the article out. Nothing here is fabricated; and information, provided by various contributers, is presented in a stripped down, encyclopedic manner. If what concerns you is that she even has an article, you are free to list it at Articles for Deletion. Ichormosquito 00:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
oh ok great thanks for the tip Sexyorge

[edit] Neo-Nazi?

Heh, sorry about asking this but howcome there is no info on her being a neo-nazi? She made a video saying that the 88 in her name means "heil hitler" and yet no one is talking about it. You can see the video for yourself here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRoAPJ1T6nQ

DemonicSailormoon 06:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I saw that video, and if one actually paid attention, she was making fun of people who thought that. So no dice. SchuminWeb (Talk) 09:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
The scenes in that video are edited by someone other than Caitlin Hill. One of her videos called 'The Myth Busterer' was downloaded and edited to mix up her words. In the actual video (which became a private video a few days ago) she says it DOESN'T stand for Heil Hitler, but it does stand for her year of birth, 1988. DhrSiN 18:07, 20 July 2007 (GMT +1)
Well, Caitlin wrote that on a tribute account TheHill;

Dude - when did you get TheHill - I wanted TheHill when I first signed up, but somebody - I'm guessing you? - had already taken it :D Haha. So I added my year of birth, 1988 = 88 and that got me into a whole world of trouble with all the crazy Nazis that are around here...stupid Nazis...and yeah...and now I'm here.

Nice to meet you :D

Caitlin

OnurTcontribs 19:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bias

  • this article lacks neutrality various users are friends of thehill88 and create information that lacks facts Sexyorge

ichoromosquito is friends with the hill88. Hopeftw 13:43, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Do you have proof on either count? SchuminWeb (Talk) 19:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


I just visited this crazy wikipedia page and though it is flattering that someone created for me, this person is not a personal friend. I have never met this person. I am also not a Nazi.

Cheers - Caitlin Hill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.104.12 (talk) 17:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thehill88.com

My understanding is that Caitlin Hill is the one running the site, and "Official Fansite" is her choice of title. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No longer a YouTube partner

ht tp://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=98147531&blogID=312012392. According to WP:SELFPUB, I think we can source the blog; but I'm conflicted. Judging from what she wrote, this entire article might soon violate WP:BLP. Any ideas on how we should proceed? Ichormosquito 04:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Ummmmmm... lemme think on all that for a bit. I'm still in a bit of shock, seeing Caitlin Hill announce her retirement...
We do have a problem citing it, though, as blog.myspace.com is on a spam blacklist. SchuminWeb (Talk) 09:40, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

No, I do not run the site. I have nothing to do with it. Why would I run a fan site? It may come as a shock to you all, but I'm not that into myself... however, I can't let peoples statements about me run away without me correcting them. - Caitlin Hill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.104.12 (talk) 17:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Caitlin, thanks for settling this. Also, welcome to Wikipedia! SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:40, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Other account...

I tried removing it in the past, but I promise that's not my IP. It's probably that of a protective fan. I don't think it's worth an edit war. Ichormosquito 02:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)