Talk:Cabaret (musical)

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I've unstubbed this page. It has all the basic information there, and even some more in depth info. Yeah, it would be nice if there was some more information, but all the bases are covered. If you strongly disagree, let's discuss it here. It was marked a stub back in July of 2004, and has grown a fair amount since then.-Michaelwsherman 12:02, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

It is a little odd that the plot is never discussed. Uucp 17:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Someone needs to post the plot. 71.240.209.176 19:18, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I tried but I can't remember the whole thing. At least it's a start. 65.139.28.219 22:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Outside the US 2 Stage band in Cabaret 3 2006 Rufus Norris version 4 Orchestration 5 First Paragraph 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Cabaret OBC.jpg

[edit] Outside the US

I'd love to see the revival on a UK Tour! I wish!

[edit] Stage band in Cabaret

Every source I can find, including the piano score, lists the onstage band as consisting of piano, tenor sax, trombone and drums, so that's what I put down. However, listening to the recording, I'm positive I hear a banjo in there. And this is the original cast, so I know it's not a 1987 reorchestration. Anybody have any information about this? Lbark 02:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

The banjo is part of the orchestra (rather than the on-stage band), in both the 1967 version and in the reorchestration. - Nunh-huh 02:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but I thought only the onstage band played the entr'acte, and I also hear a banjo there. Maybe just them and the banjo. Lbark 14:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

You can't take the soundtrack as evidence of what happens in the show. Soundtracks frequently diverge, often wildly, from the written music.

[edit] 2006 Rufus Norris version

Can someone with better skills than me add a little about this new version starring Sheila Hancock and James Dreyfus? Cheers, Nats

[edit] Orchestration

The orchestration information is not only out of place, it is misleading. You get the impression that there are 3 soprano saxophones playing the entire time, which is untrue. Woodwind stage books emply doubling, where a single player switch between a bunch of instruments. It's not unusal for one person to play five or more instruments. The original orchestration has 4 woodwind books for 4 players. You can't sort this information by instrument. This makes it look a lot bigger than it really is.

Strings are just opposite, but still misleading. You don't have 3 violins. There are separate Violin I and II books. When you rent, you get 3 copies of each, with the expectation that you put two people on each copy. So, you have 12 violins, 6 on Violin I and 6 on Violin II. Clear, eh?

It's probably just simpler to link to the official site (http://www.tamswitmark.com/musicals/cabaret.html), and drop this section.

I am in complete agreement and am removing this and the musical analysis section, which seems equally out of place. SFTVLGUY2 16:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I also have moved the section describing differences between the film adaptation and the stage production to the film article, where such a discussion is more appropriate. I have removed the reference to the Colombian production, which doesn't seem to be noteworthy, rearranged the article into a more chronological order, and added a song list and a separate section listing the Broadway awards and nominations. SFTVLGUY2 18:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First Paragraph

Needs a rewrite. Makes no sense. Fosse information is outta nowhere —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.175.93.137 (talk) 18:36, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

I removed it; it was unreferenced gibberish.67.21.184.95

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cabaret OBC.jpg

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