Talk:CA Senate Bill 420

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Does anyone know anything about how the number of the bill coincides with cannabis culture 420? Is that intentional? --24.227.174.14 18:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I understood it to be something that happened back in January, 1992. Not sure what it was, but it was on a Sunday. Just a rumor, must have had something to do with legalization somehow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.55.39.60 (talk) 00:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

No, look at this! It's Steven Hager! Steven Hager talks about how the term "420" came about! But this person has the same last name as Randall Hagar's little brother! This is the National Alliance on Mental Illness Hagar that's caused so much problems with Laura's Law and California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793. Is this just a random coincidence? No, that's not my guess! The younger Hagar has been imprisoned for burglarizing a Reno pharmacy, and as Hagar the elder has been censored for accepting a donation in excess of a half-million dollars from a pharmaceutical company (which type of donation he was ethically bound not to petition for or accept), the name "Steven Hager" has ominous overtones! It no doubt has something to do with 420 registration in California, registration that is needless and casts the shroud of mental illness over all 420 patients in that state. The Hagars have done it again! No matter how the last name is spelled, Hagar/Hager calls everyone in the state crazy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.212.159.55 (talk) 12:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

What? Aceholiday (talk) 15:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Nothing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.231.111 (talk) 03:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

That is interesting information about 420. Good work, but you left out the part about Judge Nevitt being incompetent to review any decisions concerning registration. Nevitt had difficulty discerning the difference between drug and criminal registration 'way back in the late 1990's. He caused San Diego a lasting amount of trouble because of it. Judge Nevitt shouldn't be on the bench, even in juvenile court where they had him hidden for many years (he was too incompetent to preside in superior court). His rulings caused many complaints to the San Diego Citizens Law Enforcement Review Board and the Citizens Review Board on Police Practices, the latter where Abdussattur Shaikh was when he rented the rooms to the 9/11 bombers. It's a wonder why the Prop 215 people keep using Nevitt for their rulings; it's going to come back on them someday. People notice these things.--76.212.158.95 (talk) 01:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I just tried to use the external link to the Ukiah article about Craver, and the link didn't work! I hope no one's messing with that site like they did with the area420 site. That's like destroying evidence or something. It's hard to find hard facts for Wikipedia when the reference material is hidden or caused to disappear. Well, many Wikipeidians were able to follow the link to the article and read it while it was still good, so they know the truth. And back copies of the Ukiah paper can always be purchased. And, even better, the reporter who wrote the article can even be contacted to verify what Sheriff Craver did.

Never will criminal registration as foul as Sheriff Craver's be repeated anywhere in the world. Never will a human being be subjected to so profane a medical treatment as they were forced into in Ukiah. And never will a puppet judge like Nevitt continue with his false truth and unbalanced scales of justice, as charlatans and fools are always discovered by those who carry the lantern of freedom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.212.145.2 (talk) 14:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

But that's no problem at all! Here's the link to the Ukiah Daily Journal! You have to log on to view the article, but it's in the archives, April 6, 2005, by K.C. Meadows. It's still there! Whew!

So I, for one, still don't believe much that these 420 people say. They've lied and deleted much of relevance to what they've done, and they've done a lot of damage. Their medicine is overpriced, people are still harassed at their stores, and they've done so much harm to the legalization movement it might just be irremediable. Hiding their lies won't change what's happened, using puppet judges won't give them permanent relief, and the persons who have endured all of the hardships that their spurious laws have created will surely not forget them. The loss of liberty for a free pass (420 ID cards) is fleeting, and medical treatment is not supposed to be that way. How did these people get so far? Just like this, by hiding evidence. Except this time it's not hidden too well.--76.212.149.247 (talk) 01:55, 20 March 2008 (UTC)