Talk:C. J. Cregg

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Contents 1 "A Full Lid" 2 Doctorate 3 Removed speculation 4 hair colour change? 5 Succession box 6 Build More Roads 7 "Access" 8 Catholic? 9 Other Relationships

[edit] "A Full Lid"

I know this isn't the right place to ask this, so sorry. Could anyone explain what CJ means when she says, at the end of most press conferences, "That's a full lid". Is this a media term?

A "full lid" is shorthand for saying that there will be no more news coming out of the White House for the day. It's a real term that has been used by White House Press Secretaries in briefings. Shoemoney2night (talk) 00:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Doctorate

There is a episode in which she reference earning a doctorate at Berkeley, and hence this later makes her a viable cantidate to head the Kennedy School of Government in the final episodes.

I have never heard her say anywhere that she earned a doctorate. In fact, the fact that she is still referred to, through the end of the series, as "Ms. Cregg" and not "Dr. Cregg" suggests that she never earned a doctorate. Could you please cite the exact episode where this is said? In the mean time, I'm going to temporarily revert your edit. --Hnsampat 13:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed speculation

I've removed the following paragraphs:

In the final two episodes of Season 6, in a plotline involving an oxygen leak aboard the International Space Station, a senior White House official leaked information to the New York Times about a top-secret military space shuttle that could lead to the rescue of the astronauts if none of NASA's shuttles could be readied in time. After the cliffhanger at the end of the season, many fans speculated that C.J. could be the leaker, something that, if confirmed, could result in her facing Federal charges and a possible prison sentence of up to 10 years.

The incident is probably used to mirror the Valerie Plame scandal in which the identity of the CIA wife of Iraq War critic former-ambassador Joseph C. Wilson was leaked by top Bush staffers. It is important to note that the show suggest White House Chief of Staff C.J. Cregg is implied of the leak, this is parallel in real life in which Bush’s chief political advisor Karl Rove is implied of the leak. Also like in real life, the leak had to do with a New York Times reporter, in the real life leak journalist Judith Miller served time in prison for not collaborating with a Grand Jury to reveal the name of the source, this is also mirrored in the West Wing where the reporter involved with the leak would not name his source for the sake of confidentiality to protect the source.

At the end of the episode Mr. Frost, it was revealed that Toby Ziegler was in fact the leak.

They're unsupported speculation, as far as I can tell, and since CJ wasn't the leak, they're now also irrelevant.--chris.lawson 04:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] hair colour change?

why is her hair suddenly darker in colour? Bwithh 00:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Succession box

Do we really need a succession box for a position of which there has only ever been one known occupant? DJ Clayworth 17:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Build More Roads

I am so disappointed, in one of the last episodes when C.J. was given the opportunity to spend 10 billion dollars of a rich philanthropist money to address the worlds greatest issues, she chose "build more roads". Why, "so it will be easier to give them aid"... Ugh, what a bad answer.. Of all the problems, global warming, bio diveristy / deforestation, pollution, human rights, poversity.... "build roads" what a missed opportunity... What ever happen to teach a man to fish... Why do the poeple need aid in the first place? war, bad goverment, environmental problems... and how would building roads help those issues. And which NGO recommends building more roads as a means to address global problems... Ugh, what a missed opportunity...

[edit] "Access"

I've deleted the following text from the 5th paragraph:

"Although a fifth season mockumentary episodes describes C.J. as the only press secretary to have served out two full terms under the same president, in fact..."

I just watched the episode ("Access"), and the specific line is, "[Cregg] remains the only woman to have served two terms as the White House Press Secretary." It doesn't say she served two full terms, and it seems that the emphasis was on her as a woman. I think the script is sufficiently vague that there isn't need to claim there is a continuity problem. --Eirishis 14:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Catholic?

She's listed as List of Fictional Catholics, but this doesn't appear in the text. I don't recall anything about this from the show, could someone describe with citation? -Thucydides —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.169.185.188 (talk) 03:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC).

In "The Crackpots and These Women," the fifth episode of the first season, Josh is listening to Ave Maria (by Schubert, I think) and he asks C.J. if she's ever heard it. She replies, "I'm Catholic" (presumably as a way of saying, "Of course I've heard it"). --Hnsampat 03:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other Relationships

In 4x13 The Long Goodbye, CJ goes home to Ohio for a class reunion and has a fling with Marco Arlens. In mid season 5, around episode 5x15 Full Disclosure, she had a relationship with Ben, the forrest ranger. How long it lasted is unclear. Also, a more intimate relationship between CJ and Toby was alluded to in episode 7x21 Institutional Memory when CJ went to see Toby about the pardon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.158.197 (talk)

Yes, but we don't necessarily need to add that to the article. We don't necessarily need to detail C.J.'s entire love life, although we could if we wanted to. Also, I personally think there's nothing to the Toby-C.J. thing, but in any case it's speculation at best. --Hnsampat (talk) 13:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)