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Official U.S. Air Force aviation display sign for a C-123K "Provider" located on Lackland AFB, San Antonio, Texas (March 2007).

This image (left) may be helpful for those researching this aircraft.
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Chitrapa 03:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Still operational?

Is this aircraft still operational, I can't find any info on that in the article. It has quite a lot of miles on its meter though. --MoRsE 09:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Look at this article about "Turbo Provider". If I understood it correctly, at least one C-123 is still operational. You can also look at photos on Aviation.net, maybe someone caught one in flying condition? --Piotr Mikołajski 10:26, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

If the C-123 is still operation I would guess it would be in the hands of private firms who do movie work (such as the Con Air reference), fire bombing, or something similar. I don't think any are still operational in a military role, but I could also be wrong about that. -- Thatguy96 15:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I've tried to find some photos on Airliners.net, but it's difficult to find anything quickly. At least one C-123K is still used - registered as N546S. It's civilian registration but aircraft can be used by some kind of agency, needs checking. Regards, Piotr Mikołajski 16:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please give credit where credit is due on first paragraph.

Note on introductory paragraph: Changes were made because although Fairchild likes to take credit for development of the C-123 as a powered aircraft, this development was indeed done by Chase, with all materials and fully operational prototypes turned over to Fairchild for production. Chase engineers developed the Boundary Layer Control system, as well as essential elements of the airframe, the powerplants, and cockpit control system design. Fairchild only put it into production. This is on authority of the son of one of Chase's design engineers who developed the new tail structure and worked on the BLC system, as well as cockpit instrument placement. Please give the Chase engineers credit for their hard work!

Fine, but keep the details in the Lead short. THat's what the main text is for. And remember to cite your sources if you add any more details - and sons of engineers aren't verifiable sources, you'll need published works. - BillCJ (talk) 20:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Just tweaked the intro to include Chase, interestingly Chase actually built the first five C-123Bs (with FY52 serials). MilborneOne (talk) 00:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, that works better than what I had. Do you think we ought to do an article on the XCG-20 itself? Is there enough info to do one justice? - BillCJ (talk) 00:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

They were only two XCG-20/XG-20s that became the XC-123 and XC-123A that are dealt with in the opening paragraph of this article so I suspect not much more to say about them. MilborneOne (talk) 09:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Point taken. I was under the impression there had been more than 2, but hadn't done any research of late. No offense if the info in the article was from you, but I try to verify what's here ratehr than accept it by blind faith. We've both been around Wiki long enough to know not everything written here is accurate. In this case the text was right, and my memory was wrong! Not the first time for that either! Oh, thanks for adding the variants list- definitely needed. - BillCJ (talk) 20:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Squadron/Signal's book "C-123 Provider in Action", ISBN 0897472764, is an excellent source of verified information on all of the C-123 variants built by Chase, including the Pantobase and jet prototype. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.138.8.69 (talk) 22:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)