Talk:César Franck

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[edit] Influenced Berlioz and Saint-Saens?

While it is true that Franck's cyclical method influenced later composers, it seems flatly untrue that Berlioz or Saint-Saens were beneficiaries of this influence. Berlioz died in 1869, well before any of Franck's major works were even written or published. Saint-Saens outlived Franck by several decades, but reportedly loathed Franck's style. If anyone can back up tis assertion otherwise, I'll renstert the sentence. Brennan Milligan 22:45, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the man

TBHecht, I think the paragraph "The Man" doens't say enough to be considered as an apart paragraph. I even doubt the text; the text is basically concerning his influence (cyclic form); therefore, I think this sentence could be added to "Influence".

[edit] Missing notes

It looks like the citations are missing. At the moment, the notable recordings aren't referenced, but it looks like they are. Can anyone fix this? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 01:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: The MySpace page link

Please do not remove this on the grounds of WP:EL. This page has information about and music by Franck. As WP:EL says, the officially sanctioned online site of a rock band has a direct and symmetric relationship to that rock band, and thus should be linked from the rock band's Wikipedia article. My Franck page fits this as closely as any deceased composer's page would. His music is all out of copyright, he has no official record label. Therefore, this is a page which should be linked to. --Vox Humana 8' 22:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

It also says to avoid "social networking sites" (such as Myspace). It ALSO says to avoid "Links to blogs and personal webpages, except those written by a recognized authority." -- are you a recognized athority? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 22:52, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Maybe not recognised, but I do know a lot about Franck. My mother is a professional organist and I have known the music of César Franck since birth.--Vox Humana 8' 12:40, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Your MySpace page on Cesar Franck is interesting and witty, but regrettably it definitely can't be linked to a Wikipedia article, as it violates WP:EL on several grounds: (1) social networking (MySpace); (2) blog; (3) a link to your own website; (4) COPYVIO (the recorded music), etc. I've deleted it accordingly. JGHowes talk - 12:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
It's not social networking - as it's a music page, it's music promotion. Also, the copyright on Franck's music expired in 1965, so the Copyvio claim is without foundation. It's not a blog, either. The 'blog' function is used solely to educate its readership about the music. The own website thing hardly applies, either - I merely run the page. It is in effect Franck's website. I get no glorification from that page.--Vox Humana 8' 12:33, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Can we put the link here in the talk page? There are several wikipedia policies which maybe well meaning but dogmatic adherence to them is only an irritation for those who want to use the wikipedia as a source of information. The links are extremely useful for those who want to know more, even if those more pedantic ideology bound wikipedians disaprove. --Godfinger 00:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Referring to him as "César Franck"

The article refers to him in various places as simply "Franck", and I have no problem with that. My question relates to the outside world (ugh!), where he is often introduced as "César Franck", whereas other long-dead composers tend to be referred by surname only (Beethoven, Brahms, Mendelssohn, etc). For example, a concert broadcast on radio will be announced as "a concert containing works by Schubert, Beethoven, César Franck, and Mahler", rather than "a concert containing works by Schubert, Beethoven, Franck, and Mahler". There is no other famous composer with the surname Franck (as there is with the Bachs), so there's no disambiguation involved. Why does César, virtually alone of all the famous dead composers, get this treatment? It's not because he's considered a relatively minor composer, because Hummel, Henselt, Moszkowski, Bortniansky, Weinberger and so many other minor composers still get the surname-only treatment. What makes César Franck so special? -- JackofOz (talk) 02:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I for one cannot answer your question... I myself have never heard (or at least noticed) that Franck's name is treated differently than other composers'. —Cor anglais 16 03:29, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps it is because his last name is monosyllabic? Hey, I'm just sayin' . . . -User:Random Pipings —Preceding comment was added at 12:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

get over it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.122.222 (talk) 03:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)