Talk:Butter knife
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[edit] No butter is ever passed
How is this phrased in the source, and is it appropriate for an article on butter knives? KillerChihuahua?!? 14:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
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- In very formal dining everyone has their own little silver buter dish, and salt cellar, pepper pot etc, so no-one needs to pass anything or share. Giano | talk 15:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yup but should this be included in Butter knife, the article? KillerChihuahua?!? 16:39, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Could the use of individual or shared butter knives be culturally determined? I've heard that Danes find it rather distasteful to share butter and butter knives with others, whereas Swedes don't mind that normally. Mad Greg 22:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- In very formal dining everyone has their own little silver buter dish, and salt cellar, pepper pot etc, so no-one needs to pass anything or share. Giano | talk 15:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
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KillerChihuahua?!? 15:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Nice addition to add individual knives. How many individual do you have? What is the pattern? Think name of pattern should be listed on the image. FloNight talk 15:16, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
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- The Oneida customer service FAQ says:
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- What is the difference between a butter knife and a butter spreader?
- A butter spreader has a round end (so it won't poke a hole in the bread). It is used at each place setting with the bread and butter plate for formal dinners. A butter knife has a pointed end (so it can get the hard butter from the butter plate to the bread plate).
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Should we call the small round-ended knives "butter spreaders", then, rather than "individual butter knives"? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 01:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- "Butter knives should not be confused with individual butter spreaders, which are smaller. It (the butter knife) is used only at informal meals, not at formal events" (Page 58). Inch, Arther "Dinner is Served" 2003. People have their own little dish of butter when being grand so you don't need what Killer calls the "master knife". Arthur Inch is a retired British Butler, who advises now on period films like Gosford park used to aork at Blenheim Palace so probably knows what he is talking about. Giano | talk 08:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- I love Gosford Park... rewriting caption. Please copyedit and move to article if you wish - or let me know if another image is desired. KillerChihuahua?!? 12:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Both of my sources call them "individual butter knives". Since the content is referenced to my sources I changed it back. We can add that they are called "butter spreaders" since someone has a source for it. FloNight talk 01:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- How do bad editors live with this kind of shame day after day? I could just about die from it. Apologies. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 01:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Two days ago this article was causing the RUIN of wikipedia. It made many unsourced claims. We are on safe ground now! --FloNight talk 01:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Alas, I have sad news. The RUIN of Wikipedia still looms. Have you seen Fish fork? KillerChihuahua?!? 01:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Where is Wikipedia: Wikiproject flatware when it is needed? What do you mean that's a red link?! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 01:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Bunchbunny, you start the project, and I'll give you a barnstar. Or a bran muffin - your choice. KillerChihuahua?!? 02:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Where is Wikipedia: Wikiproject flatware when it is needed? What do you mean that's a red link?! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 01:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Alas, I have sad news. The RUIN of Wikipedia still looms. Have you seen Fish fork? KillerChihuahua?!? 01:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Two days ago this article was causing the RUIN of wikipedia. It made many unsourced claims. We are on safe ground now! --FloNight talk 01:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- How do bad editors live with this kind of shame day after day? I could just about die from it. Apologies. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 01:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Both of my sources call them "individual butter knives". Since the content is referenced to my sources I changed it back. We can add that they are called "butter spreaders" since someone has a source for it. FloNight talk 01:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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Sterling silver#The History of Sterling: A Century of Dining Regalia Have you seen this article. Does this part of the article look like a possible copyright violation? --FloNight talk 02:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Not just that but also the Easterling theory section as well as large chunks of the rest, copied wholesale from [1]. Unless they copied us. Copyvio notice, or put on article talk page? KillerChihuahua?!? 02:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- that section added here: [2] KillerChihuahua?!? 02:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hallmarks added by same ip here[3] KillerChihuahua?!? 02:20, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- that section added here: [2] KillerChihuahua?!? 02:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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- RUIN is near! Fix this quickly, puppy. The talk page I guess. Someone will scream about it though. FloNight talk 02:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- nope, looks like the Easterling part was copied from us. [4] so if the Hallmarks and Century of are copyvios (and the Century looks very copyvio) it is from elsewhere. KillerChihuahua?!? 02:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, they also stole Jewelry[5]. Theives, listing them on the Evil Evil Non Gfdl Theives page. KillerChihuahua?!? 02:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- RUIN is near! Fix this quickly, puppy. The talk page I guess. Someone will scream about it though. FloNight talk 02:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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- That IP does appear to have a history of copyvios, if nobody noticed: See history of deleted Boger page. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- nods, but they didn't get it from the silver and jewelry site Judaic.com, because the Easterling section was not from them, but written here over quite a few edits back in May 2003. The Century of Dining Regalia just screams copyvio, though - and as the same IP added Hallmarks, I'm guessing same source. KillerChihuahua?!? 02:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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Why do many butter knives have a notch at the top, near the rounded end? Sam Coskey 05:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
- Exactly! I was at breakfast this morning at a swank hotel and wondered the same thing! --70.167.58.6 (talk) 23:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)