Talk:Business casual

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This article doesn't have enough on women's dress, nor does it introduce the concept of "modesty" in the workplace.

Contents 1 Needs Attention: Copyright Issues, Bolding 2 Removal of redirect 3 smart casual / business casual 4 Why Bill Gates? 5 IT Industry & Silicon Valley 6 British / American dress conventions 7 merge 8 NO citation needed

[edit] Needs Attention: Copyright Issues, Bolding

I don't know anything about this subject, so I'm hesistant to edit the article, but significant parts of it are direct (unattributed) quotes from the Monster article cited at the end. While it is quite well-written, it doesn't belong here. Can someone more qualified than me rewrite? --SuperNova 22:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I also just noticed that many words are bolded for no clear reason. This is an encyclopedia, not a marketing website. I've marked the article for attention hoping someone can help out, possibly with a rewrite.--SuperNova 22:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I have rewritten the page, discarding all the possibly copyrighted text except for a one-sentence attributed quotation. Hajhouse 19:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Ǔ♣ϧ== Wording ==

The second part of the article reads more like a manual than an encyclopedia page. Ǎ≥≤ [[Category:]]

[edit] Removal of redirect

I don't think this article should be reduced to a redirect to social aspects of clothing because when people come to this article, they're not looking for an the complete history of clothing, but rather what this very specific term means and why. I think a redirect is needlessly confusing and adds no value to the article. I do think a prominent link to the other article is appropriate for placing this style into a wider context. (And the other article can certainly retain the information it includes from this article.)

At the very least, before blanking/moving/redirecting an article, a discussion would be appreciated. Please see WP:MM. Unless there is consensus from a number of editors, I think taking a useful article out of Wikipedia should be avoided. --SuperNova |T|C| 16:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Upon further review, the other article isn't even that good! Not that this one is, either, but redirecting to an article with a lot of problems and no citations seems very counterproductive. --SuperNova |T|C| 17:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] smart casual / business casual

why does smart casual redirect to business casual? i would not say they were the same....

Maybe this should be discussed on Dress code (Western) -- TimNelson 00:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why Bill Gates?

YES! please, get rid of gates. His shirt is really sloppy, not very fashionable. please replaceUser:RacerboyGTR Can't there also be a pic of Steve Jobs or someone else? The picture of Bill Gates is slightly blurry. Maybe someone could replace it with a better picture. Ilikefood 23:15, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't complain: Find a better picture of s/1 wearing business causal.-- ExpImp^talkcon 09:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Just for you: [1] and [2] (both CC-by-sa, both need to be cropped). If you like them, use them. I am fine with Billieboy. And this one just for fun: Swedish police looking VERY casual (really it looks as if demonstrators stole some vests.)-- ExpImp^talkcon 10:14, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IT Industry & Silicon Valley

Actually the IT Industry in Silicon Valley in the 90s was forerunners of Blue Jeans and non-collared no button T shirts worn in the workplace, which is casual clothing, not bussiness casual, which is along the lines of Pollo Shirt & Kakhis. Jon 01:37, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] British / American dress conventions

I feel this article applies more particularly to American dress convention. My feeling is that "business casual" in Britain (and for that matter Europe in general) would be essentially "suit and tie". JackS 09:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

How is that any different from standard business attire, then? If you can find a source, it would then be appropriate to say that there is no such thing as business casual in Europe.--Gloriamarie 17:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

The way i've understood business casual here in europe (finland), is that it generally means "you wear a suit, but don't have to wear it according to 'suit'-etiquette" eg, you may wear a shirt that is not white and have a more laid-back tie, or no tie at all. Also khakis may be used with a coat in most bc-occasions. Then again such a simple fact as that it's quite a lot warmer in the silicon valley might be part of ditching the coat. Can't find a good belivable source though quickly. 62.78.151.21 (talk) 04:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] merge

Removed merge notice, didn't seem to be any arguments for merge. Xiong Chiamiov :: contact :: 02:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NO citation needed

who needs a citation for this?: "Casual Fridays was the first introduction of Business Casual. Later, the entire week was deemed as Business Casual. This led to employees feeling more comfortable at work." Isn't there a certain degree of OBVIOUSNESS about people feeling more comfortable in casual as opposed to formalwear? Or do we need to create a scientific measurement of clothing comfort?