Talk:Burschenschaft

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[edit] links of disputable relevance

I have removed the following links, two of which (the only links to specific Burschenschaften) are examples of such specifically known for their lack of political moderation, thus not descriptive of the whole movement unless part of a representative cross-section, the other a promise of satire, at present sadly devoid of content. -- Kiwaiti 22:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

removed: A well-known Burschenschaft is the Hamburger Burschenschaft Germania in northern Germany (Free and Hanseatic City of Hamburg): http://www.germania-hamburg.de/

A well-known satire on Burschenschaft is the Burschenschaft Gruen-und-Blau in southern Germany: http://www.burschenschaft-gruen-und-blau.de

A well-known Burschenschaft in Austrian and politic http://olympia.burschenschaft.at

[edit] Focus and View

This article does seriously suffer from a filtered view and incomplete focus, probably caused by many of its authors coming from a fraternity Background. I am not accusing anyone of POV writing here - though not a Burschenschafter, I come from such a background myself - but in (German) fraternity circles the fraternal aspect of the Urburschenschaft is often unduly emphasized over its more relevant socio-economic and political angle.

The Burschenschaft movement started out as a political student movement working for both democratic reforms in mostly feudal Germany and national unity, and it is this phase that has massiveley influenced German history and left traces that we can still see today.

Its later history - when the movement basically devolved into yet another fraternity association - is still worthwhile and relevant (since those fraternities shaped generations of democratic politicians), but tends to be overemphasized by "official" histography as done in fraternity circles. Wefa 17:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you think a straight translation of the de-wiki article would be suitable? Plenty of historical depth and some good images. Thomjakobsen 18:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)