Talk:Burgerville, USA
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- This seems unsubstantiated, but who am I to remove it? :: "Burgerville may well be the largest fast-food restaurant chain in the world that serves natural beef and other natural meat and animal products."
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- You're a WP editor, and those are WP:WEASEL words. Anyway, I went to one... once... and it most definitely was not distinguished from McDonalds or Burger King on cleanliness or quality. This article should at least link to the promotional materials it quotes. The tables were greasy, the ketchup was rancid and the burgers were disgusting, yet it was priced like an upscale restaurant. Try In-n-Out Burger instead. Potatoswatter 02:24, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- I believe the book Fast Food Nation mentions the fact about the natural beef if anyone has a copy and wants to check. And just a reminder to please keep the discussion here about improving the article--it's not a restaurant review. Thanks! Katr67 16:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- You're a WP editor, and those are WP:WEASEL words. Anyway, I went to one... once... and it most definitely was not distinguished from McDonalds or Burger King on cleanliness or quality. This article should at least link to the promotional materials it quotes. The tables were greasy, the ketchup was rancid and the burgers were disgusting, yet it was priced like an upscale restaurant. Try In-n-Out Burger instead. Potatoswatter 02:24, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Name of company
I believe they have dropped the "USA" from their branding, and when the "USA" is used, there isn't a comma after "Burgerville". I don't want to move the page until I'm sure. More fun for anyone interested in digging up a source (still need the Fast Food Nation mention as well)... Katr67 23:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Promotional Language"
I don't think the section taken out was promotional, it was merely descriptive of the company's marketing style. I don't think it was saying that that style is any better than another style. Of course, like much of the article it was unsourced, so I won't put it back, but I think it was an important section that shows, along with the emphasis on local products, that Burgerville isn't a typical fast food restaurant. Katr67 02:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fast food issue
The fast food info is cited, removal of cited info can be seen as vandalism, and an insistance on a POV is not only WP:OWN but also WP:POV. If you want to assert that this company is not a fast food chain, you are free to do so with cited information from reliable sources, but per the neutral point of view policy all sides of the debate are to be represented. Our personal opinions do not really matter, it is what can be backed up by citations. Aboutmovies 17:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- As a note to further support the fast food notion see Burgerville's news and events coverage from their own website. Aboutmovies 17:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- I know the owner of the company and most of the senior managers. They do not view themselves as being in the "fast food" market. This is not a POV. This is their own positioning. But if you want to ignore the company themselves as a reliable source, then I'm not going to argue. --Randal L. Schwartz 17:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- McDonald's also claims that its food is not a cause of obesity. Get real, it's just plain common sense. Burgerville operates on exactly the same physical model of sale as all other fast food chains. How they sell their food isn't a blanket statement on the quality of the food or how they view themselves. Bottom line: if credible independent sources call them fast food, we call them fast food. You are, however, welcome to include a cited quote from the company that makes clear their opinion on the matter. VanTucky Talk 17:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- This quote from the Inc. article cited on the company website quotes Jeff Harvey, Burgerville's COO as saying: "Our hope is to challenge the industry. Quick service is just a delivery mechanism for food--everything else is up to the company." Quick service restaurant redirects to fast food restaurant. I don't what else he could have meant by "quick service"... Katr67 17:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Additionally, if you read through media coverage the company is quite proud of having a $7+ avergae ticket whch compares well with other's in the industry like McDonald's and Buger King and Wendy's, all fast food restuarants. On a more practical and my opinion, but if you order your food through a drive through or at a counter, then you are likely a fast food/quick serve restuarant. If you go in and are seated and they take your order at the table you are most likely a "sit down" restuarant. Mark Furman may not think he's a racist, but if it acts like a duck, walks like a duck, the media says it is a duck, the company says they are a mallard, then I think its safe to say they are a duck. Quack, quack. Aboutmovies 18:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- This quote from the Inc. article cited on the company website quotes Jeff Harvey, Burgerville's COO as saying: "Our hope is to challenge the industry. Quick service is just a delivery mechanism for food--everything else is up to the company." Quick service restaurant redirects to fast food restaurant. I don't what else he could have meant by "quick service"... Katr67 17:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- McDonald's also claims that its food is not a cause of obesity. Get real, it's just plain common sense. Burgerville operates on exactly the same physical model of sale as all other fast food chains. How they sell their food isn't a blanket statement on the quality of the food or how they view themselves. Bottom line: if credible independent sources call them fast food, we call them fast food. You are, however, welcome to include a cited quote from the company that makes clear their opinion on the matter. VanTucky Talk 17:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- I know the owner of the company and most of the senior managers. They do not view themselves as being in the "fast food" market. This is not a POV. This is their own positioning. But if you want to ignore the company themselves as a reliable source, then I'm not going to argue. --Randal L. Schwartz 17:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
