Talk:Bull and Terrier

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[edit] The Bull and Terrier

One should not deny or try to ignore or reject bull and terrier crosses whom are hunting dogs. Just about every working/hunting terrier you see today has bull-dog blood in them and the history and use of bull and terriers as hunting dogs should stop getting deleted from this article in my opinion. I am aware that this fact contradicts the direction and limited tone on this article as it is today, but maybe we can correct the tone so that it includes hunting bull and terriers too, rather than just trying to delete the fact that most hunting terriers are also bull and terrier crosses. Maybe we can work together to make a very good article.

If we cannot work together, or if some people just don't want to include the hunting bull and terrier crosses, then I will leave this article alone.Working terriers (talk) 13:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The English White Terrier was created in the 1850s at its earliest, and was first shown in 1864. The English White Terrier was used in the creation of the White "Bull Terrier", however, the English White Terrier was not bred to the Old English Bulldog but rather to Bull and Terrier's in-order to help create the White "Bull Terrier". The Manchester Terrier itself is a relatively new breed that had been developed for the show ring in the middle to late 1800s. The Manchester Terrier is as different, if not more so, from the terriers of the 1700s and early 1800s as the modern English Bulldog differs from the Old English Bulldog. The list of terriers bred to the Old English Bulldog in-order to create Bull and Terrier crosses is perhaps endless, and so I have written that the Old English Bulldog was bred to a variety of terriers so that the article can include all of the crosses done between the Old English Bulldog and the Terrier.Working terriers (talk) 15:04, 1 April 2008 (UTC)