Talk:Bulgarian Action Committees
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The article is totally disconnected with reality.
- The Yugoslav rule was changed with German, after that with Bulgarian.
AKA Yugoslavia was occupied by Germany and Bulgaria.
- The Serbs in most places had run away, not being afraid not as much of the Germans, but of the revenge of the local Bulgarian population.
Revenge for what?
- Only the Serbian authorities in Skopje and Bitola did not escape.
Escape from what?
- It was logical the Bulgarians to make an attempt to lake control and to avoid anarchy.
Says who?
- The establishment of that rule continued long after the arrival of the Bulgarian army because the organization of the administrative authorities in the region and its transformation in inseparable unity with Bulgaria was long-lasting process.
Unseparable unity got separated four years later. Nikola 15:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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- Actually it's inseparable ;). I'll try answering some of the questions, but for more info, we should get to the author who is not the most talkative of users in Wikipedia. 1st point 'The Yugoslav rule was changed with German, after that with Bulgarian.' I think it's worth mentioning the fact that the German rule came before the Bulgarian - the other way round is omitting this fact. 2nd - 'Revenge for what?' - the Macedonian issue. The whole reason Bulgaria participated in World War I was the fact that a huge part of the capital's population was in fact from Macedonia. This feelings were pretty much alive 20 years later. 3rd - I don't get it. The upper sentence says about this revenge, so it would be logic to assume that this is what they're running from (I'm sure for this part though). 4th I don't get it either. 5th It sounds a little unencyclopedic - ok a lot unencyclopedic. It's not part of the facts - I imagine he meant to put something about the desire of Bulgarians to unite. --Laveol 18:37, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
More info: [1] [2]Jingby 18:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC) The second book is still vorbiden in Serbia!Jingby 19:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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- 1) I'm not well versed in history of these areas, but I'll just say that I'm not so certain about that. 2) While would Serbian peasants be reponsible for the Macedonian issue? I also never heard about Sofia's population being mostly from Macedonia. Nikola 19:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm totally confident only over the last issue you mentioned - yes, Sofia's population consisted a huge number of immigrants from Macedonia. They formed a great public pressure on the Tsar and government. For the first issue I'm not sure about it - but as it was what the article imposed I thought it was worth mentioning as something fairly important. And about the peasants - I don't know if he meant peasants. It would make sense if government officials and so on ran way --Laveol 05:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Tito complains to Moscow about the attitude of the Macedonian and Bulgarian communists and requests clarification of Comintern policy, 4 September, 1941 (p. 31) S Clissold "Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union 1939-1973" Oxford Univ Press, London, p153-154 (1975)
The Macedonian Regional Committee refused to remain in contact with us and linked up with Bulgarian CP as soon as the Occupation of Macedonia started, Sharlo Metodi Shatorov, Secretary of the Macedonian Regional Committee refused to answer the CC's thrice repeated summons to come to Belgrade for a meeting in which the Macedonian question could be thrashed out. He refused to distribute the proclamation of the CPY CC calling for military actions, issued a directive that all arms should be surrendered to the authorities and adopted a stance in favour of a Soviet Macedonia and of awaiting the coming of the Red Army. He adopted a hostile attitude towards the Serbian comrades in Macedonia. Sharlo has been making speeches to the members against the leadership of the CPY and its Secretary, dubbing him pro-British because it was stated in the proclamation that Yugoslavia has been enslaved.
In addition to the above statement comes the fact mentioned in the preface to the cited "Collection of Documents...," on p. xii, that Shatorov together with his comrades had taken part in the pro-Bulgarian action committees preparing to meet the Bulgarian army: "Participation in the so-called Macedonian-Bulgarian Committees, voluntarily handing over weapons to the occupation forces..." and so on.
Following the text of the above letter published in the "Collection of Documents...," p. 14 is an explanation of the anti-Serbian struggle of Shatorov: "Right after the occupation of Macedonia, Sharlo expelled from the CC of the YCP for Macedonia Blazho Orlandich and Dobrivoe Vidich [later the chief party leader in the Socialist Republic of Serbia], because they were Serbs and, as such, they had nothing to do in Macedonia."
The best activists shared Shatorov's ideas:- the Macedonian Slavs are Bulgarians; with the breakup of Yugoslavia and with the Bulgarian occupation, Macedonia is free; we no longer recognize Yugoslavia; we want the Serbs to leave Macedonia.Jingby 14:59, 2 June 2007 (UTC)