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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

Hello Bukvoed, welcome to Wikipedia!

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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page. Thanks and happy editing, Alf 09:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC).

Thanks for the tips. Bukvoed 14:05, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Armoured vehicle pics

Thanks for the armoured vehicle pictures on Commons! I've put some of them to good use on the Norwegian Wikipedia. Harald Hansen 06:39, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad I have been helpful. Bukvoed 14:35, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Gorgeous picture of the Renault R35!--MWAK 19:12, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Bukvoed 09:36, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

I just saw all the great photos you added to M4 Sherman variants, and I was inspired to award you this barnstar. Keep up the good work! Megapixie 03:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh, thanks ! Now I'm a decorated wikiuser... :) Bukvoed 10:45, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Great photos of the tank collection at Yad La-Shiryon; I used some of them in the English Wikipedia article about the site. It could still use a photo of the tank on the tower, if you have one. AshcroftIleum 07:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Unfortunately, it seems I don't have a photo of this vehicle. Bukvoed 21:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Self-propelled artillery

Have you any time to put a bit of work into the above. I've done a bit of copyedit but the bit on Soviet Self-propelled needs work. I am acquainted with the SU guns but I know of no examples of Red Army guns like the Sexton (artillery) and I wondered if there was readily understandable reason why these were not developed. GraemeLeggett 13:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm neither an expert on Soviet SP artillery nor an experienced editor (which the article is in need of, IMHO), but I'll see what I can do.
As for your question why Soviets didn't develop designated indirect fire SP guns... my "educated guess" is that Soviets tried to concentrate on a limited number of models and make them as universal as possible. It fitted their industry structure with relatively few relatively huge factories, it fitted the circumstances - the urgent need to outproduce the Germans despite lack of experienced workers, and of course it lessened maintenance problems.
With towed guns it actually started before the war. Soviet divisional field artillery piece was not a designated indirect fire weapon such as American or German 105 mm pieces or to lesser degree the British 25 pounder, but a series of 76 mm guns such as the ZiS-3 which obviously had weaker HE shell but could be used as AT gun and was pretty decent in this role. Their corps-level (A-19) and army-level (ML-20) pieces were dual-purpose too, although more geared for the indirect fire. It continued with AFVs. Since Barbarossa, more or less every factory that was able to produce T-34, produced T-34 (with the exception of KV and later IS). Those that couldn't, produced light T-60/T-70. Armored cars, gun tractors etc were nearly abandoned. In 1942 Soviet started to launch large-scale offensives and recognized the need for more powerful assault guns so they developed the "naked ass Ferdinand" (oh, I like the sound of that...) SU-76 (ZiS-3 on modified T-70 chassis) and the SU-152 (ML-20 on KV chassis) and later the ISUs. Just like the towed guns they carried, these were built as all-purpose tools that could act both as assault guns (their primary role), as tank destroyers and as indirect fire artillery.
So the short answer is: instead of building designated light assault gun, designated light SP artillery and designated light tank destroyer as separate vehicles, they merged them into one and called it SU-76 :). The same for heavy SU/ISU-152. Bukvoed 17:09, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military history WikiProject Newsletter, Issue I

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[edit] ZiS-2 article improvent

Приветствую!
Не могли бы Вы отшлифовать англоязычный текст по ЗиС-2, который я в меру своих сил пытался перенести :из русской Вики?
Наилучших пожеланий
LostArtilleryman 04:59, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Сейчас взгляну. Хотя, наверное, шлифовку лучше было бы "поручить" тем, для кого английский - родной. Или по крайней мере тем, кто, в отличие от меня, сумел разобраться с артиклями :). Bukvoed 08:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Спасибо, текущий вариант выглядит существенно лучше моего. LostArtilleryman 11:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
После перечитывания статьи возник небольшой вопрос. В статье говорится (русский вариант): Ствол ... соединяется с лафетом, который заимствован от дивизионной пушки образца 1942 года ЗиС-3; а в статье по ЗиС-3: Конструктивно ЗиС-3 была наложением ствола ... Ф-22УСВ на легкий лафет противотанковой 57-мм пушки ЗиС-2.. Всё-таки, "чей" лафет ? Bukvoed 12:25, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Это небольшая штука с обозначениями пушек - лафет первоначально был разработан для ЗиС-2 в 1940 г. и при разработке ЗиС-3 в 1941 году его действительно у ЗиС-2 позаимствовали. Но затем в декабре 1941 года ЗиС-2 сняли с производства, а выпуск ЗиС-3 и совершенствование лафета продолжались. Поэтому когда в 1943 году ЗиС-2 вновь поставили на конвейер, лафет взяли от тогдашней серийной ЗиС-3, который был модифицированной версией лафета ЗиС-2 обр. 1941 года. Причём в существующей статье противоречия нет - там чётко указывается, что у ЗиС-3 лафет был позаимствован именно для 57-мм пушки обр. 1943 года. LostArtilleryman 13:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Понятно, спасибо. Bukvoed 13:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] My Interest in Hebrew

Shalom aleichem שלום עליכם , Hi Bukvoed Can you help me please, Can you translate my name in Hebrew as I found an Interest in the language, my name is Abdullah Geelah, can you translate it in Hebrew plzzzzzzzz. --Abdullah Geelah 21:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

You mean you want to know how your name is written in Hebrew ? Well, Abdullah becomes עבדאללה . I'm not completely sure about the last name. Since I don't know how your last name is written in Arabic (and - more important - I cannot read Arabic anyway), and I'm even not sure how do you pronounce it, I can only guess. Perhaps גילה ?
The direct translation of Abdullah ("servant of god" ?) to Hebrew probably would be עובד אלוהים (pronounced Oh-VED Eh-loh-HIM). Now the last name... Unfortunately I have no idea what it means.
If you want to know what Hebrew name is the closest to yours in meaning, it's probably עובדיה (pronounced Oh-VAH-dee-ah, spelled Ovadiah or Ovadia or Obadiah or... , also meaning "servant of god"). Bukvoed 05:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] watch out for metropolitan90

metropolitan90 is obsessed with deleting jewish articles. Don't be fooled by him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.231.161 (talk • contribs)

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:37mm m1930 (1-K) gun.jpg

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Done. Bukvoed 13:24, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] new toy

Kirill Lokshin and me have developed a new toy (discussion):

External images
helms
Front
Rear

Implemented in an article it can look like in Mongol bow (including some misunderstanding) or Indian Wars. While we (mostly me) think it is a great thing (contrary to the long frustrating negotiations for images that can not keep up with the rapid expansion of articles and new requests), it would require some people to use it and not overdo it. You just have to google missing images and insert the url with a short description. I would really appreciate it, especially for the feedback. Thank you a lot. Greatings Wandalstouring 06:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. Thank you. Bukvoed 09:06, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
finished template with guidelines. Wandalstouring 17:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Courtesy notice: claim of user's good faith violation

Hello. About that Good Samaritan barnstar, I regret that you have been risking Carpal Tunnel Syndrome in vain. My condolences.Wikist 03:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello. When encountering a textbook case of trolling, I recommend a PDNFTT policy. Please feel free to disagree. Thank you.Wikist 04:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for not answering earlier. That user could be more civil towards people he disagrees with (even if they aren't experts) and to show more respect for wikipedia, but I don't think his behavior qualifies as trolling. Anyway... I admit I'm not very good in handling situations like this one, so I prefer not to interfere. Bukvoed 15:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Look at the Talk page for the M4 Sherman...

I left a link there to a Tech Manual on this tank. Might be useful, eh?

Ignore that, you already have it! Deathbunny 15:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Your links were very useful, thanks again. Bukvoed 15:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Possibly interesting wikiprojects

These wikiprojects (Graphic Lab, WikiProject Illustration)are chiefly concerned with illustrations and my be of interest for you as they aim at answering image requests. Greetings Wandalstouring 21:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look. Bukvoed 08:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] You are welcome to edit my work anytime.

I'm long on concepts and short on details (spelling, punctuation, typos). I'm also pretty new to Wikipedia. You are welcome to "nitpick" my contributions anytime you wish. I do not consider the contribution "minor". Most recently edited articles: Business plan, Cerebral hypoxia -- Egfrank 09:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't have much time for wikipedia now. Perhaps one day... Anyway, thanks and good luck. Bukvoed 13:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] from Arpad

Hi - I finally succumbed to a Wiki trend. Any advice will be appeciated :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arpad13 (talk • contribs)

Hi. First of all - be careful, this is FAR more addictive thing than any board / blog :). Second, take a look at the first comment on this page. Third... I'll call you... Bukvoed 08:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Your Source Lacks Credibility

You recently edited the King Armored Car, saying it was not America's first AFV. But it was. I checked out the warwheels website and it is not credible. The page says the Davidson Auto Battery Armored Car has only one (1) machine gun, but two (2) machine guns are plainly visible on the picture THEY provided. And furthermore, the vehicle is hardly armored. According to the picture provided, the only armor on the vehicle was underneath and in front of the guns. This hardly qualifies it as an armored vehicle. That leaves one other vehicle listed as being made before 1915 for which they provide information: the Davidson-Cadillac Armored Car. According to the website http://www.car-nection.com/yann/Dbas_txt/Factd-g.htm, this vehicle was not developed until 1915. And on the warwheels website, once you actually click on the Davidson-Cadillac Armored Car hyperlink (which is in the 1914 category), it's page says 1915. So the website is clearly not a credible source. --MKnight9989 12:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

If this is the picture of the Davidson Auto Battery you talk about - http://www.warwheels.net/DavidsonAutoBatteryINDEX.html - it shows two vehicles each mounting a single MG, doesn't it ? Anyway, I agree that the vehicle was "mostly unarmored" and therefore IMHO not a real armored car.
I admit I'm not really an expert on WWI-era US armored cars, but it seems for many of them it is quite hard to say exactly when they were built. E.g. for the Davidson-Cadillac, Hunnicutt (Armored Car, A History of American Wheeled Combat Vehicles) says it was completed in 1914, but articles found on the web ( e.g. http://www.landships.freeservers.com/Davidson-Cadillac_trigsby.htm - which btw clearly names it "the first fully armoured motor vehicle to be built in the U.S.A.") typically prefer 1915. For Jeffery it is the other way round - http://www.landships.freeservers.com/new_pages/jeffrey_ac_no1_info.htm says 1914, Hunnicutt 1915. The Mack Armored Car : Warwheels ( http://www.warwheels.net/USAacChronologyHAUGH.html ) : 1915, Hunnicutt: in use in 1916. And no, I didn't forget the King Armored Car... 1915 if we trust your source (is it Semper Fi ?), 1916 according to Warwheels, and Hunnicutt... well... he says 1917 and on the same page provides photos from late 1916 :). To sum it up - hardly a perfectly clear picture :) ... and still, it seems not very probable that the King was the earliest of those designs.
So, I replaced a "strong" claim - "the first" - with a "weaker" one - "one of the first". But if you are sure that the stronger claim is right... well... I'd like to see some supporting evidence, but in any case, at least right now I'm not going to interfere. Bukvoed 19:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I guess that picture does show two car, not one; I feel like a blind ass for that one. The book I used as reference has been correct in almost every aspect; I've found just one mistake. This record makes it difficult for me to believe it is wrong, but as I speak (well, type) I'm trying to find more information on the internet about the KAC, but so far I've come up a tad bit short. --MKnight9989 12:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Гаубица Д-1

Буквоед, Вы не могли бы как официальный участник Военного портала в енВики номинировать сабж на А-класс? LostArtilleryman 06:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Вообще-то чтобы стать участником, достаточно самому вписать куда-то там своё "имя" :), а номинировать статью можно и не будучи таковым... но если Вы предпочитаете, чтобы это сделал я... ок. В ближайшие два-три дня пройдусь по статье ещё раз-другой и тогда номинирую. Или может начнём с peer review ( Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Peer_review#Peer_review ) ? Bukvoed 10:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Всё таки в енВики Ваш вклад в статью главный, а посему Вам и виднее что лучше, включая peer review. Полностью полагаюсь на Ваше решение. LostArtilleryman 11:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Отдал на растерзание peer review. Bukvoed 16:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Достаточно долго не было, но вгрызлись. Кое-что по предложениям поставил в обсуждении сабжа, но сам переделывать теперь стесняюсь - грамотности уже не хватает :-). Кое-что изменил, теперь надо вновь проверить грамматику и сообщить Локшину о ревизии статьи. LostArtilleryman 11:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
М-да, активность не то что бы невысокая, а вообще ниже плинтуса :-). Подождём до конца недели и номинируем официально на А-класс? Нет дальнейших замечаний - значит всё понятно и доходчиво как простой как правда барабанный револьвер :-))) LostArtilleryman 04:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Отсутствие реакции, конечно, слегка обескураживает... Похоже, множество юзеров интересующихся артиллерией практически совпадает с множеством работавших над статьёй :). Да, пожалуй подождём ещё немного и номинируем на А-класс. Bukvoed 19:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Nominated for Good article. Bukvoed 08:30, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Поздравления!

С успешным прохождением статьи М3 в А-класс. Интересно, а что нужно, чтобы дотянуть до уровня Featured? LostArtilleryman 06:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Если говорить о том, чем не совсем доволен я сам... хотелось бы уточнить некоторые детали. Начать хотя бы с полного официального названия. Я начал подозревать :), что это 37mm Gun, Antitank, M3. Многие источники, однако, слово "Antitank" опускают. 37 с миллиметрами пишут кто слитно, кто через дефис. Как раз раздельное написание вроде пока не попадалось. Хотелось бы найти техническое руководство по М3. Узнать побольше о судьбе "иностранных" орудий. Что стало с французскими/британскими/советскими ? Что за "другие страны" ? Подозреваю, что "китайские" отметились в гражданскую и/или японо-китайскую, но, увы, подтверждений не имею. Что всё же за история с дульным тормозом ? Узнать побольше об установке М3 на "Виллисе" и на "Визеле" - кто, где, когда, сколько. Действительно ли фугасный снаряд Мк 2 - тот самый, от М1916 ? Повидимому да, но чёрным по белому это нигде не написано. Из чего-то я сделал вывод, что в списке прототипов по крайней мере одного не хватает. Что за "20мм автоматические пушки" числились противотанковым оружием морской пехоты ? Я было подумал про Solothurn S-18/1000, но он как будто полуавтоматический. Может американцы и с Solothurn S-18/1100 "поигрались" ?
Не помешали бы фотографии, на которых были бы хорошо видны казенник, станины и пр. Фотография М6 тоже бы пригодилась. И (мечтательно) прототипов...
Впрочем, подозреваю, что для "выхода на следующий уровень" нужен прежде всего хороший литературный редактор :).
Я даже не исключаю полностью, что "и так сойдёт". Возможно, когда-нибудь наберусь храбрости и номинирую... Bukvoed 07:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Ох... а спасибо за поздравление я сказать забыл... :(. Исправляюсь. Bukvoed 12:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

И ещё раз поздравления - в руВики теперь она избранная! LostArtilleryman 12:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Спасибо. И я Вас поздравляю с тем же событием. Bukvoed 13:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] 152mm M1943 howitzer D-1 is now GA

Hi, congratulations to you and other contributing editors. D-1 is now GA! Well done and please keep it up. Regards, AshLin 14:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Bukvoed 14:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tel Aviv coatofarms.jpg

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Done. Bukvoed 05:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Identify that tank/gun, round 3

See here Raul654 19:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The list can be found at User talk:Raul654/favpics/2007 Ordnance Museum 3 Raul654 00:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Bukvoed 10:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
That was some pretty impressive identification work. Kudos! Oberiko 18:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
(ceremonial bow) :). Bukvoed 19:43, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wishlist

I do intend, eventually, to get to the items on my wishlist. Can you remove any items that we have pictures of now? Also, I realized yesterday - are there any medals or other decorations for which we lack pictures? The APG Musuem has a *GIGANTIC* display (well over 120 different medals, including two or three medals of honor). Raul654 21:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Just removed the items. As for awards, I'm affraid I can't help, except pointing to the Category:Military decorations, which, however, seems too big to check all of it in a reasonable time. Bukvoed 08:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] 21 cm Mörser 10

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