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i think the article may be completely wrong. As far as i know, this huan1xi3 buddha is a sex buddha. That he's role is to encourage people to have sex. That is why he is often depicted with such features as naked large potbelly and ripe breasts, and often given to newly web couples. 69.236.95.49 3 July 2005 09:24 (UTC)

Speaking as a practising Zen Buddhist and someone that has done a lot of research I have never encountered that particular legend, not even in Folklore. The Buddhist take on Hotei as well as he alleged poem was explained to me by a Monk at Throssel Hole Buddhist Abbey so i'm convinced of its reliability. There is plenty of evidence available on the internet to confirm the current article. I could also reference a few books. Lostsocks 14:16, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Also, no disrespect intended, but i do not believe there is such a thing as a "sex Buddha". Is there a source for this infomation? It sounds a lot like a recent new-age invention Lostsocks 18:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Another story. Anyone familiar?

OK, so this is mainly just for my info since this is what I've been telling people, but I've heard a story that this was a Chinese monk who was very hadsome. After he became a monk, the women would fall in love with him upon first seeing him and because he was so full of kindness and generosity, he resolved to become obese to prevent these women from suffering.  ??? Feel free to tell me I'm full of crap. Obhaso 02:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I've never come across the story myself, though that does not mean it has never been told. Lot's of anecdotes often develop around popular figures such as Hotei. There is another one mentioned in "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" that I have not heard told elsewhere Lostsocks 14:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I heard that these were actually pre-buddhist indigenous spirits, kind of like the pre-christian northern european idea of faeries...just kind of local spirits.--Feralnostalgia 13:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kubera and Dzambala

Has anybody notice the resemblance Hotei has to Kubera and Dzambala (the uncovered pot-belly and the postion of the legs). See web pages:http://www.chazen.wisc.edu/popups/pop.asp?ID=1973-15 for Kubera and http://www.oselgroup.org/images/tsa/dzambala.jpg for Dzambala. Can anyone explain this?

[edit] What language is hotei?

Why is this page at "Hotei" and not at "Budai"? What romanisation is "Bu-Dai"? It's neither Pinyin nor W-G. I'm proposing a move to Budai. In any case, "Hotei" means Jinhua ham in several Wu dialects. --Sumple (Talk) 02:21, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Hotei is Japanese. Zazaban 23:57, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Milefo & Hotei

The Wikipedia entry for Milefo redirects to Hotei. Hotei is the Japanese pronounciation for 布袋. As the figure is originating from Chinese culture it would be more natural to have an article on Milefo (with references to Hotei) than vice versa. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bobke (talk • contribs) 12:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC).

You will find that many people who edit on buddhist related articles ususally focus primarily on one culture or another. You'll find articles based mainly on Japan, China, Tibet ect. Zazaban 23:56, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it is reasonable to refer to him as "Budai" in a Chinese context, and "Hotei" in a Japanese context. What do you think? I have changed the opening a bit to avoid labelling him using either foreign language name, which is also in accordance with the common names policy. --Sumple (Talk) 01:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I have had the impression that the name "Hotei" is more common in English than "Budai", which I had never heard before I learned it from Wikipedia. However, I can't really substantiate this, and it doesn't matter much. In any event, I think Milefo should be a redirect to Maitreya.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 19:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Monks at the temple I visited called him Pu Tai, which I'm guessing is Budai, romanised differently. Though I don't think it matters too much which we use. Most people would probably look for Laughing Buddha if they were unfamiliar with Budai ;) Lostsocks 03:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pronounciation

How do you pronounce "Budai"? HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 05:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

"Boo-dye" --Sumple (Talk) 05:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Sumple. Perhaps somebody who understand pronunciation guides could add that to the beginning. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 13:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)