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[edit] Removal of Tags

I am going to be removing both the WikiProject Music criteria for importance notice as well as the complete rewrite tags on this article. BT's significant is beyond any notion of debate, and the articles structure is very well concieved. The other tags in this article have merit and I won't delete them. ~ ReAPsTA

I deleted the citation and also advert tags. This morning I almost completely redid the article and have cited most of the uncited information in it. It no longer reads as an advert, either. Gloriamarie 18:57, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commentary on POV

Although I must say, though the review of BT's work is comprehensive and well thought out, it does seem a bit POV in its opinions of Movement in Still Life, among other things. In its negative appraisal of this album, it fails to cite sources of reviewers who agree with the opinion stated in the article. If the author doesn't respond, I'll take some action in making the otherwise well written biography a bit less biased.

Logalot 01:08, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I have removed much of the worst POV stuff, but there is still a bit there that should probably be taken out or moved to individual articles of his albums/songs. Gloriamarie 17:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC) Gloriamarie

[edit] IQ Source Request

Source needed for iq statement.--William sharkey 23:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0117741/bio Rafert 21:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, but the imdb.com is about as verifiable as the information on THIS site.--Toquinha 18:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Who Pioneered the BT Stutter?

I do believe that the "BT stutter" was pioneered by kraftwerk. (Note "Boing Boom Tschak"


69.113.250.67 19:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I think BT himself credited the stutter effect to them in an interview at some point. Someone with credible google-fu might be able to find the quote in question.70.35.227.160 15:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if it's common to refer to it as the "BT Stutter" but he has taken it to a new level if anyone did it previously. Kraftwerk never reached the popular masses as NSync did. That's a fact. Gloriamarie 17:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Gloriamarie


BT created the Stutter Edit, and is actively developing it for release in 2007 through his new software company, Sonik Architects. For reference, please see an hour-long video interview at the DivX Stage6 BT channel: http://stage6.divx.com/BT . Here you can not only see BT discussing Stutter Edit (his official name for it), but also in part 5 of the interview a demonstration of the new software implementation.


BT most certainly did not create the stutter edit. Kurtiz Mantronix was doing it a decade before BT as were other artists. In fact, BT never incorporated a stutter edit into a track until Hip Hop Phenomenon which was largely produced by Adam Beber (of Tsunami 1) with additional help by Andy Page. Popularizing something is far different from creating it. Also, BT may have helped popularize the nu skool breaks sound with Hip Hop Phenomenon but the genre existed for half a decade before that track. Whomever wrote this article needs to quit reading BT's interviews and taking his quotes as fact.(MS)

Guys like Meat Beat Manifesto were using the stutter edit well before Brian and I vaguely recall BT acknowledging this. If you're pedantic enough, I'm sure you could go back to years to classical musicians who were using what were essentially stutter edits in their works (de Bussey springs to mind but I can't confirm this..). Hip Hop Phenomenon does have the edits through it but Brian's done them before (on ESCM.. 'Orbitus Teranium' is insane with them (as an aside to this, it's Adam Freeland & Kevin Beber who make up Tsunami One). BT has certainly taken stutter edits to an extreme level and it is pervasive throughout his work, to the point where it is referred to as the BT stutter. He's become so proficient at it that he's got to the point of creating software that allows people to do stutter edits live (similar to the Eyeris, he used a while back but software as opposed to hardware). BT refers to them as stutter edits because that's what they are - I don't know of any time he's claimed to have been the first to pioneer them. (CKM)

"(as an aside to this, it's Adam Freeland & Kevin Beber who make up Tsunami One)" Beber did all the sound sculpting and engineering. Freeland helped with sequencing but and general idea of tracks. That's why I credited it primarily to Beber. (MS)

I don't know if this was what the edit 3 up was talking about but, it's not that he created the effect, its that he created the program that turns the input sound into a synth effect so that you can do it without having to manually cut and sequence.71.184.205.6 (talk) 08:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Drasticly needs re-write

This entire article is POV and uncited. I would suggest a complete re-write.
Agreed. One too many weasel words for my liking too Early Q 20:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Who added Look

Does anyone know how Look got on BT's filmography list, it is a private film, and it was also added when it had a different title, and no one was supposed to know about it. --[[User:Halibut THyme|Halibut Thyme]], 04:33 PM, 23 September 2006.

I don't really know what you mean when you say that it was a private film that no one was supposed to know about, because I just read about it when it was previously called "Surveillance" in many BT interviews and it doesn't seem that he's trying to hide it. I think you've got your facts wrong here. It seems to be a major movie release, from BT's comments. Gloriamarie 17:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Gloriamarie

[edit] Where's the contents?

Why is the contents are not in the article? It must be in there not to be confused with the reader.

Keenrich 22:15, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, I've made the table of contents visible now. -- Bovineone 04:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite

I will begin a complete re-write next week. Please add discussion items to this page for things that you believe should be included. This page seems like a advertisement for BT, and as much of a fan as I am, it's no place for an encyclopedia. The re-write will only consist of factual items (such as collaborations and facts found in existing databases). Any other suggestions, or if you'd like to help me, please, discuss! Trodaikid1983 23:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and done quite a rewrite-- I've added quite a bit and cited most of what was there. There was only one thing I could find that was factually wrong and I've removed it along with some of the more opinionated statements in the album treatments. Gloriamarie 17:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Gloriamarie

[edit] Accuracy of technical information

I have noticed that the information about the techniques Brian uses are inaccurate and misleading.

  • The information in the current revision on time correction is an extremely limited (and not altogether accurate) perspective, and is unclear. I think technical information explaining time correction constitutes its own page. I feel the term "time correction" has become widely accepted in the industry as the name of this technique.
  • The given explanation of the "BT stutter" effect is also misleading and incomplete, and could also possibly warrant its own page, however, as far as I know, the "BT stutter" is not widely accepted as a term.
  • The explanation of granular synthesis is unclear and incomplete. Time correction and his stutter effect could certainly be argued to be signature techniques of his, however I do not know of any reason that granular synthesis should be considered one. He also does not exclusively use REplay PLAYer for his granular processing.

Joemoser 09:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea about this technical stuff; some of what was cited in the article I did find in a few other articles. It did seem like a bad description to me but I am not the one to do a better technical rewrite. I also came across a description by BT and it wasn't very enlightening, either. Gloriamarie 17:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Gloriamarie

[edit] Upcoming Album

In the DivX Interview, BT hints at a Summer 2008 release for the upcoming dancefloor-oriented album, although he also states that he hasn't finished writing it yet. 81.208.161.148

[edit] BT Robbed

I heard somewhere that BT was robbed again (As of 2007), does anyone have any information or hearings of this? If it is true

Based on things he himself has put on his site and in his forum, he was offering $20,000 for any info related to the robbery. [1]. This ad also appeared in magazines, such as Remix and Keyboard. Insomaniac117 01:24, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV issues.

Most of the sources and citations in this article are from promotional sites, from that fact this person happens to use their equipment or in regard to his various PR agencies.

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P.s I have scant idea who this person is, but the article is obviously horrible and lop sided. Celebrity pages really are the bane of Wikipedia and obviously the banal resort of the weak minded. 195.92.168.164 05:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If you do not know who the person is, it's maybe then stretching a bit to say whether the article is neutral or not. Whether the sources are neutral or from equipment sites does not really matter; the only requirement for Wikipedia is that sources be reliable and third-party. Editorials, which are completely non-neutral, are often cited for sources. This article must be neutral, but cited sources do not have to be. Finally, I restored some of what you said after another editor blanked it, but most of it was a commentary on celebrities, society, and Wikipedia editors in general that is probably best left to your own userpage and not an actual indvidual Wikipedia talk page. :) --Gloriamarie (talk) 23:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Abduction of Kaia "Kiki" Nui Transeau

I've made a few edits to improve the quality, accuracy, and sourcing of this section of the article. I'm not exactly a wikipedia veteran though, just a concerned fan of the artist, so I'd appreciate it if anyone would like to touch it up a little if necessary. -Paedansu (talk) 19:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

An unregistered user removed this section entirely. Any justification for why? It is confirmed fact, not a rumor as it was originally believed to be. Any feedback would be appreciated. -Paedansu (talk) 18:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

In the mean time I rewrote the content and added it to the personal life section. -Paedansu (talk) 19:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Why did somebody post that Kaia had been found? As of right now, 6:00am EST on the 16th of January, there is no indication on any of BT's web pages or in the news media that his daughter has been found. (Never mind that the entry lists January 15th -2007- as the date of the recovery's announcement.) 71.228.134.15 (talk) 11:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

All right, I didn't research well enough. Buried in the forums on BT's website: yes, apparently, she has been found. It simply hasn't filtered through to the rest of the network, then. (For what it's worth, it -hasn't- yet been announced on his MySpace page.)71.228.134.15 (talk) 11:18, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

News reports are starting to show up now! I'll try to assemble some details I can source and update accordingly. -Paedansu (talk) 19:07, 17 January 2008 (UTC)