User talk:Brux

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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Brux, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! 

You may also wish to check out how to make a Wikipedia:Redirect. It's easy once you learn how! Cheers, -- Infrogmation 06:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Please write in complete sentences. Check out Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers and the Wikipedia:Manual of Style to learn about how to format articles and link them to each other. It's pretty easy once you learn how! Cheers, -- Infrogmation 02:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Signing

Try to sign things with four tildes (~). And please, we do not need copyright violating material on here. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 01:35, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

The wikipedia does have its copyright rules plastered all over, and we tend to think that it would be common sense not to post someone else's work to the site. Sorry if everyone comes out as being a little harsh, the members and admins don't like having the wiki in legal trouble, or caught "borrowing" (taking down the reputation). Or something like that. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 01:31, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

Hi. If you plan to stick around, please familiarize yourself with such Wikipedia policies as Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Some of the text you have added, permission or not, sounds like advertising; if the subjects are notable enough to warrent encyclopedia articles, the text needs to be rewritten without the promotional hype. Hope this helps, -- Infrogmation 02:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Also, on Oz Garcia, you seem to have added interwiki links to versions of the article in other languages, but such articles seem not to exist. Why? Wondering simply, -- Infrogmation 02:12, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not sure what the purpose of your recent edit of Anne Bancroft was. What exactly do you think was counter to NPOV of what you removed? Hm, Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point might be worth a look. You seem to have gotten off to a bit of a rough start as a new user here, but if you're interested in helping us write a great free conent encyclopedia, understand that you are welcome here, and I believe you'll find that most of us older term users are quite forgiving of new user mistakes as long as the new users are willing to learn from them. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 03:27, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Deleted articles

Hello, I have no idea why it was deleted: I never saw it. If shouldn't have been speedied on grounds of nobility — that should have gone to VFD. Be careful with the kind of articles you add: both Gourmet Guides and Personal Best Inc. can be construed as publicity, and if they were to appear in VFD, I would have to vote delete. Can you find any similar articles in wikipedia? Some articles are also very short, such as Michael Dornemann. You're not against a time limit here! You're much better off spending half an hour or more researching and writing one good article than creating several very small ("substub" - an article that is even shorter than a stub) pages.

A good tip for notability: can you insert wikilinks within the article without having to create them? An example: yesterday, I created the article Swing Bridge, River Tyne. Every wikilink on that page is to an existing, developed article.

Feel free to give me a shout if you have any questions. Enjoy wikipedia! The JPS 09:41, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, so I don't have access to the wonderful array of information about deleted articles. If you use material from other websites, you should rewrite them. It will enhance the article and make it conform to wikipedia standards.
Sometimes copyright infringements will be spotted immediately, sometimes they will take a while to be identified. The copyvios that escape being found are those which conform to wikipedia style. I always do a copyvio check if I see an article with a style very different to the rest of wikipedia! The safest thing to do is always rewrite, and add the website as a reference.
The problem with the other two articles that you mention is more to do with advertising. Can you find any other articles on wikipedia about shops which sell cookbooks? An article about Wal-Mart, however, is going to be of interest to far more people.
You are right - there is no automatic system of mentoring newbies. There are newbie message boards, put the paradox is that you won't know that they are there untill you're not a newbie anymore! I'm happy to answer any queries. It might be worthwhile just cooling off a little before adding more articles — lurk a while, or make small edits to existing articles, and get a sense of the environment.
Out of interest, who pointed youin my direction? The JPS 15:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This was the initial problem with Gourmet Guides. It did not express notability: in its original state, it look like advertising and did not mention any historical relevance. I've now added an appropriate category.
Notability is an issue of common sense: you're writing for other people, so what is notable for you (or me) is not that relevant. My local shop is more important and notable to me than Wal-mart, but who, other than me, actually cares? The JPS 16:17, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Dornemann

Hey. If you cheched the history, JPS wanted this article to be merged in the main article: which it was. Therefore, it was a candidate for deletion. I already got slammed that this article was too short. Check my talk section. Paraphrasing JPS, "unless I can add some more information the about MichaelD. then the article should be removed". Brux 15:36, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Candidates for speedy deletion are only those which satisfy one of the criteria listed on WP:CSD; In this case, the best option is probably redirecting the articles to wherever they've been merged. --W(t) 15:40, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)


[edit] On2

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as On2, but we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the article in your own words. For more information about Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, take a look at our Five Pillars. Happy editing! NatusRoma 00:57, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


I suppose that the problem is that Wikipedia is inconsistent. There's a page somewhere explaining this, but I can't for the life of me find where it is. I'll see if I can track it down sometime in the near future. I didn't find other copyrighted contributions that you may have made because I didn't go looking for them. If you removed them without anyone finding them, then you've already done what's necessary. Please continue contributing; as Infrogmation said, more experienced users are generally quite forgiving of past mistakes. Please keep contributing; I'll be interested to see what you can do. NatusRoma 05:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Hey, I guess we are going to get into a battle over On2! Why did you put the copyright violation back on and not the original content? I acknowledge it was a copyright violation and want it changed back but you are hanging some stupid sign on the article for what? Please change it back to the original content and stop this discussion-article-war. What is the purpose of hanging a copyright violation on it after the fact: because you have some rule about it that has to be followed? Brux 16:09, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The article's a copyright violation. That means it'll have to be rewritten on the /temp page, which will be moved to the article page when the copyvio is removed, as described in the template. See Wikipedia:Copyright problems for more information. --W(t) 16:12, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)
Where is the original material? Why can't it just be copied to /temp and everything moved back to the original form? Brux 16:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The edit history can be found by clicking the history link at the top of the page, but all of that was a copyright violation. --W(t) 16:21, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)
I understand the history link. My original question still remains. Where did the original material go? As you said I need to copy this text to the /temp article, so the move can occur, etc? If the original text can't be found, what then? Is the article marked for deletion since all the material is in violation according to the history log. Let me know my next step so I can get this article restored. Brux 16:27, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What makes you say there is "original material" beyond what is in the edit history? I can't find any evidence of there having been older versions. --W(t) 16:29, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)
There was. I remember it but didn't copy it anywhere - not realizing its importance. How I remember it was it mentioned the President and CEO Douglas McIntyre which I thought was cool and that I had not included. The name McIntyre rang a bell because he was a name of publishing company in Vancouver BC where I lived back in the 80's. It described On2 as a firm working with media-compression. Its first sentence was that its stock is traded on Amex under ONT. So I am not crazy. The only time I saw it was when NatursRoma flagged me with the copyright violation in the middle of an edit and the system came back with a message saying the article had been modified while I was making modifications. When I did some refreshes I got the original content but never saw it again. Possible system problems?? Brux 16:40, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yes, that would be this version, which is a copyright violation. --W(t) 16:45, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)
Nope. That is my version that I was working on. This origianl content was in wiki format. This article version is not. And I said how it started (i.e. traded on Amex) and what it included (President and CEO...). There was original content and it is gone so I can move it to the /temp. Why don't I rewrite it? Because I can only remember what I remember. There was more which I don't remember. What happens now? Brux 16:53, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Now it sits at WP:CP for at least 7 days, and then it gets deleted (unless it turns out not to be a copyvio, which seems unlikely). If anybody rewrites it on /temp that will get moved to the main article. --W(t) 16:57, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)
Let me try to answer a few of your questions. I did not flag On2 as a copyright violation with the intention of getting into a personal dispute with you. I found the article because I was looking at a list of recently created pages (which you can see at Special:Newpages). I am interested in mathematics, and because "On2" is very similar to "onto", a term used in mathematics, I was curious about what the article was. I was a little reluctant to put up the tag immediately, because I realized that you were probably still editing the article, but I decided that the sooner the copyrighted information was removed, the sooner a non-copyrighted article could be written. Because you seemed to be a relatively new user, I reasoned that you had not maliciously added the copyrighted information, and added Template:Nothanks to your talk page in order to ask you not to add copyrighted material. NatusRoma 20:41, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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