User talk:BruceHallman/Elections in Cuba:neutrality sandbox

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[edit] POV

This version is sanitized into Communist propaganda, and omits reasonable criticisms of the Cuban totalitarian government's sham elections. There's no point in editing it, because an NPOV version exists in the main article. -- FRCP11 17:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps we need to try again to cooperate and collaboate? It is also obvious that you really hate Fidel Castro. Is there anyway you can set that emotion aside when you put on your 'editor hat'? BruceHallman 19:23, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I have set that emotion aside, because I've permitted Cuba's false claims of "democracy" to remain in the article, as well as links to pure propaganda sites. All I've done is provide appropriate context. -- FRCP11 19:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Do you accept the premise that both the POV's use 'propaganda'? BruceHallman 20:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

No. -- FRCP11 21:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

In other words, to you, your POV is 'truth', and my POV is 'a lie'. We need to find a way around that impass if we ever hope to find a neutral middle ground between the POV's. Wikipedia is not about 'truth'. BruceHallman 22:28, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Which is why the POV that Cuba is some innocuous paradise is included, in addition to the facts of the situation. Intelligent readers can weigh the evidence and decide for themselves. You're seeking to short-circuit that debate by sanitizing the page to omit the POV that reflects reality. -- FRCP11 23:00, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

FRCP11, I can appreciate the case you are making here. BruceHallman 00:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)