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Contents 1 Goof 2 Buffalo 3 555 Phone Fiasco 4 Removal 5 No logic? 6 Oh, God! Resemblance? 7 "Telephone numbers" section 8 Notable biblical references 9 Almighty Me 10 Yahoo 11 Neutrality 12 I reoved the trivia 13 "Usage of the Bruce Almighty Name"

[edit] Goof

Okay, when Grace donates blood for Bruce, the packet say AB Positive, and she says that earlier in the film too. But, AB Positive is the Universal Receptor, O Negative is the universal donor, so its a goof.--Kevin mills (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the writers missed out on that crucial point. You could write a section on it, or try to pretend that God prevented Bruce from dying of massive blood clots. 128.210.127.54 (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Buffalo

Something should be mentioned about how people in Buffalo were angry over the fact that it did not depict Buffalo accuratly and was not filmed in Buffalo.

• If they ever did depict Buffalo accurately, the people there would really be angry. Wahkeenah 02:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 555 Phone Fiasco

Michigan? I haven't seen the movie (I detest Jim Carrey), but the news articles that discussed the 555 phone fiasco said that the producers had said that they used the phone number they used because the exchange doesn't exist in Buffalo, New York, where the movie takes place. -- Zoe

You're correct. Hmm ... I wonder how I came up with Michigan? Anyway, fixed. --Eloquence

On a similar note, the last paragraph claims that the movie is controversial because of the phone number thing. Surely in a movie where God is a middle-aged black man who gives his powers to a mortal human, ignoring all theological questions these ideas raise, surely with all this -- isn't there something more controversial than the phone number being a real number? Tuf-Kat

I haven't read about any controversy from religious watchdogs. -- Zoe

Is it really a moonshine rendezvous or actually a moonlight rendezvous?

[edit] Removal

Hi. I removed a part of the article that seemed rather... wrong. If you disagree with this, you're welcome to discuss the changes here.

"The universe in Bruce Almighty seems to be entirely centered around planet Earth, as is vividly illustrated by a scene where Bruce adds a few stars to the sky and removes some others -- not suns, but merely decorations for his moonlight rendezvous."

The problem is that given Bruce's calibre for the most of the movie, the setting is effectively not Earth-centric or heliocentric but Bruce-centric. He is completely within his rights to remove indascendent spheres of nuclear fire in sizes that boggle the imagination, and add some new ones. The other adjustments in the scene, such as rubbing out the cloud cover, further drive the point home. It's about what Bruce can do, not how the universe revolves around Earth.

The existence of God is taken for granted in the entire movie, even before God contacts the protagonist and removes all doubt.

All of two people have their beliefs shown with any depth. Both believe in God and so both think that He exists. In addition, Bruce meets God very soon after the movie starts, and Grace has very few lines about Him. So... neither of them having a crisis of faith during this time is somehow odd?

Okay, so there are a lot of praying people as well . Not exactly a suitable sample of the entire population, though.

Supernatural events, on the other hand, appear to leave little impression on the population of Bruce's world.

What? There are very few things in the film that would convince onlookers that they're witnessing definite supernatural phenomena. Rule one of the whole endeavour is that Bruce has to maintain his cover. The few events that do qualify are met with considerable surprise, alarm and disbelief (the butt-monkey's cute, isn't it?) which certainly seems accurate enough. -- Kizor 15:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] No logic?

I was just thinking it seems weird, this whole thing with God not being able to mess with free will seems weird, I mean shouldn't he be able to circumvent this?

And another thing, it is stated that he only controls bufallo yet he manipulated the moon, and that is technically not a part of Bufallo.

XSpaceyx 22:20, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, it only ever says the prayers he hears are from Buffalo. But as having all of God's powers, he should have control over the Moon.

Drake Clawfang, February 18, 2006.

Was it not mentioned in the movie that he infact did not have omnipotence nor omniscience though? Though, I may be wrong

XSpaceyx 08:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Well I'm not sure about that, but I do remember God saying outright: "You have all of my powers".

[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]], February 20, 2006.

Yeah I understand that, but really studying the movie he does not appear to have omniscience in any part of it, and the fact that he can't override the free mind, would really interfere with the general theory around omnipotence

XSpaceyx 16:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

The "don't mess with free will" was a rule given to Bruce by God, to stop him from causing any more damage.... God does have the ability to remove free will, but doesn't. Hence Bruce isn't omniscient in that regard or on the same level as God is (in real life).

Yoda921 02:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)Yoda

When God gives him the powers he says that he has all his powers. Yet the prays are just in Bufallo.

Also God cant mess with free will. In the early parts of the bible its mentioned (vagely when Adam and Eve are being kicked out of the Garden of Eden)

[edit] Oh, God! Resemblance?

God in the form of a human being giving a regular person powers seems very similar to the 1977 movie starring George Burns (except for the fact that he never gives the main character, John Denver). The plot is very different, for another reason, as God is not spreading any kind of message, as it did in Oh, God!, but all the same it shows God in human form in Bruce Almighty. So is there any kind of influence Oh, God! had with Bruce Almighty?

Leopard Gecko 20:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Leopard Gecko God in the form of a human being giving a regular person powers seems very similar to the 1977 movie starring George Burns (except for the fact that he never gives the main character, John Denver). The plot is very different, for another reason, as God is not spreading any kind of message, as it did in Oh, God!, but all the same it shows God in human form in Bruce Almighty. So is there any kind of influence Oh, God! had with Bruce Almighty?

I haven't seen Bruce Almighty, but I've seen Oh, God!, and I suspect this would come up in any movie that portrays a truly anthropomorphisized God figure. If there is influence, I suspect it is at a very basic level. Perhaps it should only be mentioned briefly for some similarity in concept. WikiZipo 10:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Telephone numbers" section

In my memory, there was telephone number controversy because, in the original version, real phone number used. So the crew changed into fictional number. However, this article explains incorrectly--59.5.188.72 06:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable biblical references

Is that section entirely nessecary? I think it's quite silly to explain all or most the jokes that are based on what happened or is said in The Bible. I think the movie clearly assumes that viewers understand the connections and references to the bible, and I think most of the viewers do understand the references, so I don't see it nessecary to explain the jokes here. Rather the article could say something like "the movie draws some of it's humour by referencing Biblical miracles and phrases in new context, for example instead of using his powers to spilt a sea, Bruce splits his tomato soup."Shubi 22:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Almighty Me

Several bullets in the trivia section seem to be a bit more ulterior than they should be, notably: "The film is also extremely similar to Robert Bausch's 1991 novel Almighty Me, which had been circulating in Hollywood during the mid-Nineties. Bausch contends that his novel is the source material for the film, and has never received credit for his contribution." I'm not making any accusations, but it sounds a lot like an advertisement or cry for attention. Neither Robert Bausch nor "Almighty Me" have a Wikipedia page at the time of posting, so it seems highly suspect that there is any solid proof behind this accusation, especially since no accredited or valid publication states that there are similarities between the two. I'll wait five days, and if no changes are made, then I'm deleting that part of the Trivia section. Icetitan17 17:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yahoo

The name used by Bruce was similar to yahoo but I think the name they used was purposly similar to what god is called by the Jewish holy book but I'm not sure if it is it should be added to the allusions--Addude 01:34, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

I removed the neutrality tag as there doesn't seem to be much arguement here and I cant see what the issue is. If Im wrong then please up it back and give me a shout as to why! John CaptinJohn 12:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I reoved the trivia

I had to do it.--Angel David 00:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Usage of the Bruce Almighty Name"

Wtf, this doesn't deserve it's own section. Hardly mentionable, I'm removing it 22:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)~~