Talk:Brownie (Girl Guides)

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[edit] US

Why is each country's variant listed (so clumsily)? If this is deemed necessary, why is the US ommitted? --Belg4mit 05:37, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the US Girl Scouts seem to be largely omitted from wikipedia's coverage, is this related to some copyright issue (a la Boy Scouts (whom are covered) or Scientology? --Belg4mit 05:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

This is the international article on the Brownie section, with information on the variation... see Cub Scout or Beavers (Scouting) for the Scouting analogue.
With regards to the GSUSA - they are not ignored as such, but the Scouting WikiProject is driven by editors mainly from the BSA, with a smaller number from UK, Australia, and other countries with Scouting and Guiding. I don't know if we yet have anyone who is specifically interested in GSUSA. Horus Kol Talk 18:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Motto

There is conflicting contributions in this article with regards to the Brownie Guide motto - and without any references to back up the contributions, it is going to be difficult to resolve. Does anyone know where we can find sources for this information? Horus Kol Talk 00:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Male "Guides"

Male members of Guiding organizations are normally called Guides or (in some rare cases Scouts. --jergen 17:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brownies open to girls and boys

Since about 1990 Brownies has been open to both girls and boys in most countries. Could someone verify/explain this statement? I know that some Brownies take both boys and girls, but do most? I was under the impression that most WAGGGS members have kept their girl-only status. And why 1990? Kingbird 20:22, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

About 1990 for the date when opening Guides to boys seems to be correct--as long as there is no source for a special date. Could also be Beginning in the 1990s some organizations opend Brownies to both ....
Most countries is not correct. There are several coeducational organizations but large parts of Guiding remain girls-only. If I remember correctly, WAGGGS estimated in 2000 that about 0.1 % of its members were male (about 10,000 of 10 million). Numbers must have gone up: My association named about 20,000 males for WAGGGS-membeship in 2002 (?).
A problem with this is the fact, that WAGGGS sees also the Cub Scout sections in SAGNOs (Scouting And Guiding National Organizations" with membership in WAGGGS and WOSM) as part of the Brownie program. And there are far more SAGNOS with a coeducational Cub Scout section than with a coeducational Brownie Guide section. --jergen 06:55, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I know for a FACT that they are open for Girls and Boys. When the Scouts allowed some girls to join, there was a stipulation that boys would be allowed to join the Brownies or Guides. Also, on the Cub Scouts page that is incorrect, because in some countries girls are not allowed to join and it's boys only. How do I know this? My neighbour is a Cub Scout leader --88.111.189.181 15:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Girl Guiding UK (including Brownies) is Girls-only check their website http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/ . Sorry you need a better source than your neighbour. --Egel Reaction? 16:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
No - I am talking about the Brownies - as is so to speak - they are open to both boys and girls. --88.111.189.181 16:55, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
In which country? Not in the UK, and looking at your ip you are from the UK. Cubs are open to both boys and girls in the UK but not the Brownies, Brownies is girls only. But it is different in other countries. In some countries Brownies and Cubs are single sex, other counties is one or both open to both boys and girls. And there are countries without Brownies, only Cubs --Egel Reaction? 18:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Does this also apply to things like the Trefoil Guild? 86.147.154.138 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 15:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)